3 ms·
> "It's clearly causing confusion for some portion of users. We recognize that the average user doesn't have a law degree," Kardwell said. What the hell. No, K
by kstrauser 3y ago
> "It's clearly causing confusion for some portion of users. We recognize that the average user doesn't have a law degree," Kardwell said.
What the hell. No, Kardwell. We weren't confused. We read your words, understood the implications, and complained. It was because were weren't confused.
"The customers are too stupid to understand." Yeah, that surely must be it.
From the article:
> User content was defined as "the information, text, opinions, messages, comments, audio visual works, motion pictures, photographs, animation, videos, graphics, sounds, music, software, apps, and any other content or material that you or your end users submit, upload, post, host, store, or otherwise make available" using Vultr's resources.
"...that you or your end users... host". Maybe Vultr had nothing but the best intentions, but their legalese was catastrophically bad. If Vultr truly meant well, then the only people confused were their legal team who drafted a ToS that didn't reflect their intent.
- deadlydose 3y ago> "It's clearly causing confusion for some portion of users. We recognize that the average user doesn't have a law degree," I'm no mechanic either but I can identify a flat tire when I see one.
- chillfox 3y agoWut! Did they really have a social network style ToS on a hosting platform? That’s wild!
- explain 3y agoONLY "for purposes of providing the services to you." > You hereby grant to Vultr a non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, fully paid-up, worldwide license (including the right to sublicense through multiple tiers) to use, reproduce, process, adapt, publicly perform, publicly display, modify, prepare derivative works, publish, transmit and distribute each of your User Content, or any portion thereof, in any form, medium or distribution method now known or hereafter existing, known or developed, and otherwise use and commercialize the User Content in any way that Vultr deems appropriate, without any further consent, notice and/or compensation to you or to any third parties, *for purposes of providing the services to you.*
- kstrauser 3y agoThat's such an enormously huge loophole. A literal interpretation is that if I host a server there, they can feed my hard drive ("you or your end users submit, upload, post, host, store, or otherwise make available") into an LLM and sell it back to me, and, coincidentally, anyone else. Maybe that's not what they intend. However, that's what it says.
- AlgorithmicTime 3y ago[dead]
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]