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This fork is going to be BSD licensed, so all of the fixes and improvements can upstream to Redis. redict is LGPL licensed, so that can't happen. https://code

by alrs 3y ago

This fork is going to be BSD licensed, so all of the fixes and improvements can upstream to Redis. redict is LGPL licensed, so that can't happen. https://codeberg.org/redict/redict https://codeberg.org/redict/redict

ke4qqq 3y ago
You say that like it's a problem. Isn't the point of open source to be able to share so that others can take advantage of a solution to a given problem?
- alrs 3y ago
  Yes, the point of open source is to share, so that others can take advantage of a solution to a given problem. Redis does not do that.
  - shikon7 3y ago
    I disagree. Surely Redis will take advantage of a solution to a given problem.
    - alrs 3y ago
      You're of the belief that Redis will merge LGPL-licensed commits into their tree?
reconditerose 3y ago
Hi, co-creator of Valkey here. I'm not that worried about it. There are a lot of people who have tried to maintain Redis folks, my employer AWS has one such fork I know very well, and they quickly become extremely hard to maintain with your own code. These aren't problems Redis wants to solve, they are off in their GenAI space building fancy extensions. For the next year or so it might be a real concern, but we are thinking long term, and I don't think it'll matter for long. So, we thought the best approach was to stick with the license and get us into a vendor neutral foundation. We haven't ruled out LGPL, we just didn't make the change unilaterally and as a foundational part of the fork. We just want to keep building :)
- mariusor 3y ago
  Any idea why this fork has the support of the linux foundation in favour of any other?
  - wmf 3y ago
    Valkey is run by the companies that control the Linux Foundation.
  - stephenr 3y ago
    The only other fork from current redis that I'm aware of is Redict, and I'd imagine drew devault's name alone brings enough baggage and bad memories that a lot of people (users and contributors) will avoid it. This fork being run by existing contributors to the project helps a lot too.
    - mariusor 3y ago
      No matter one's opinions on Drew, I think his work as a maintainer and his commitment to open-source speak for themselves. Your second point is actually the answer I was looking for, thank you.

by alrs 3y ago

ke4qqq 3y ago

You say that like it's a problem. Isn't the point of open source to be able to share so that others can take advantage of a solution to a given problem?

alrs 3y ago
Yes, the point of open source is to share, so that others can take advantage of a solution to a given problem. Redis does not do that.
- shikon7 3y ago
  I disagree. Surely Redis will take advantage of a solution to a given problem.
  - alrs 3y ago
    You're of the belief that Redis will merge LGPL-licensed commits into their tree?

reconditerose 3y ago

Hi, co-creator of Valkey here. I'm not that worried about it. There are a lot of people who have tried to maintain Redis folks, my employer AWS has one such fork I know very well, and they quickly become extremely hard to maintain with your own code. These aren't problems Redis wants to solve, they are off in their GenAI space building fancy extensions. For the next year or so it might be a real concern, but we are thinking long term, and I don't think it'll matter for long. So, we thought the best approach was to stick with the license and get us into a vendor neutral foundation. We haven't ruled out LGPL, we just didn't make the change unilaterally and as a foundational part of the fork. We just want to keep building :)

mariusor 3y ago
Any idea why this fork has the support of the linux foundation in favour of any other?
- wmf 3y ago
  Valkey is run by the companies that control the Linux Foundation.
- stephenr 3y ago
  The only other fork from current redis that I'm aware of is Redict, and I'd imagine drew devault's name alone brings enough baggage and bad memories that a lot of people (users and contributors) will avoid it. This fork being run by existing contributors to the project helps a lot too.
  - mariusor 3y ago
    No matter one's opinions on Drew, I think his work as a maintainer and his commitment to open-source speak for themselves. Your second point is actually the answer I was looking for, thank you.