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> Parole is available after 1/3 of term IIRC it's 85%. Federal prison does not have parole, but they do give some credit for good behavior, up to 15%.

tired_star_nrg 3y ago
I thought that was only in Louisiana if they pass one of their new “tough on crime” laws
setgree 3y ago
I do not expect SBF to express remorse, be a model prisoner, etc. I expect him to royally misunderstand the rules of the game, which he routinely does in formal settings. This is the same man who leaked his ex's diaries while she was testifying against him, which led to his bail being revoked https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/technology/sam-bankman-fried-jail.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/technology/sam-bankman-fr...
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
  > I expect him to royally misunderstand the rules of the game What a weird take on his behavior. His parents are law professors, he had an army of lawyers working for him at the time, yet he just didn't care and did what he felt like, knowing full well the damage it would do, because that was the whole point. There is no misunderstanding, it was just indifference.
  - setgree 3y ago
    SBF was not indifferent to going to jail... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/technology/sam-bankman-fried-jail-peanut-butter-vegan.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/technology/sam-bankman-fr... https://nypost.com/2023/08/24/why-sam-bankman-fried-likely-wont-get-adderall-while-locked-up-in-brooklyn-jail/ https://nypost.com/2023/08/24/why-sam-bankman-fried-likely-w...
  - Simon_ORourke 3y ago
    > it was just indifference. Absolutely spot on, and to paraphrase Tallyrand, it was worse than a crime, it was indifference.
compiler-guy 3y ago
This was true for a long time, but the "First Step" act, passed I think in 2021, increased the good behavior credit maximum to 50%. Realistically then, SBF is looking at 11.5 years if he can stay out of trouble, which is relatively easy for white-collar criminals in relatively low security prisons. Federal rules still don't have parole.
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  The big problem for SBF I think is that he's been shown to have "no filter", or no regard for accepted norms. That could bite him even in federal prison (and he has to go to a medium security, I believe, because of the length of the sentence). Piss off an inmate and get in an even slight altercation, lose some of your good behavior points. 12.5 years would be possible only if he scored 100% on good behavior.
- ufo 3y ago
  (as described in the linked article)
- bjacobel 3y ago
  He's proven repeatedly that he's incapable of abiding by the conditions of his parole. What makes everyone in this thread so sure he'll demonstrate "good behavior"?
  - zer0x4d 3y ago
    Let's be honest here, "good behavior" is extremely easy to demonstrate in prison where everyone else is constantly getting in fights, beating up guards, etc. It's not a high bar and a person like SBF should easily be able to do that.
    - hackermailman 3y ago
      There is many other ways to get written up and lose time credits like sharing commissary, having too many books, and sometimes fighting is not optional if your cellmates are into stupid things and drag you with them. It depends if he is sent to a USP like regular federal convicts or club fed minimum because of his connections. Typically club fed you can only get through a plea bargain like Madoff or through years of good time credits.

tired_star_nrg 3y ago

I thought that was only in Louisiana if they pass one of their new “tough on crime” laws

setgree 3y ago

I do not expect SBF to express remorse, be a model prisoner, etc. I expect him to royally misunderstand the rules of the game, which he routinely does in formal settings. This is the same man who leaked his ex's diaries while she was testifying against him, which led to his bail being revoked https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/technology/sam-bankman-fried-jail.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/technology/sam-bankman-fr...

dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
> I expect him to royally misunderstand the rules of the game What a weird take on his behavior. His parents are law professors, he had an army of lawyers working for him at the time, yet he just didn't care and did what he felt like, knowing full well the damage it would do, because that was the whole point. There is no misunderstanding, it was just indifference.
- setgree 3y ago
  SBF was not indifferent to going to jail... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/technology/sam-bankman-fried-jail-peanut-butter-vegan.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/technology/sam-bankman-fr... https://nypost.com/2023/08/24/why-sam-bankman-fried-likely-wont-get-adderall-while-locked-up-in-brooklyn-jail/ https://nypost.com/2023/08/24/why-sam-bankman-fried-likely-w...
- Simon_ORourke 3y ago
  > it was just indifference. Absolutely spot on, and to paraphrase Tallyrand, it was worse than a crime, it was indifference.

compiler-guy 3y ago

This was true for a long time, but the "First Step" act, passed I think in 2021, increased the good behavior credit maximum to 50%. Realistically then, SBF is looking at 11.5 years if he can stay out of trouble, which is relatively easy for white-collar criminals in relatively low security prisons. Federal rules still don't have parole.

FireBeyond 3y ago
The big problem for SBF I think is that he's been shown to have "no filter", or no regard for accepted norms. That could bite him even in federal prison (and he has to go to a medium security, I believe, because of the length of the sentence). Piss off an inmate and get in an even slight altercation, lose some of your good behavior points. 12.5 years would be possible only if he scored 100% on good behavior.
ufo 3y ago
(as described in the linked article)
bjacobel 3y ago
He's proven repeatedly that he's incapable of abiding by the conditions of his parole. What makes everyone in this thread so sure he'll demonstrate "good behavior"?
- zer0x4d 3y ago
  Let's be honest here, "good behavior" is extremely easy to demonstrate in prison where everyone else is constantly getting in fights, beating up guards, etc. It's not a high bar and a person like SBF should easily be able to do that.
  - hackermailman 3y ago
    There is many other ways to get written up and lose time credits like sharing commissary, having too many books, and sometimes fighting is not optional if your cellmates are into stupid things and drag you with them. It depends if he is sent to a USP like regular federal convicts or club fed minimum because of his connections. Typically club fed you can only get through a plea bargain like Madoff or through years of good time credits.