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SBF is 32 years old - 25 years isn't a death sentence for him Parole is available after 1/3 of term, realistically he won't serve 100% There's still a chance fo
by maxclark 3y ago
SBF is 32 years old - 25 years isn't a death sentence for him
Parole is available after 1/3 of term, realistically he won't serve 100%
There's still a chance for him to get something out of his life post jail
- rootusrootus 3y ago> Parole is available after 1/3 of term IIRC it's 85%. Federal prison does not have parole, but they do give some credit for good behavior, up to 15%.
- tired_star_nrg 3y agoI thought that was only in Louisiana if they pass one of their new “tough on crime” laws
- setgree 3y agoI do not expect SBF to express remorse, be a model prisoner, etc. I expect him to royally misunderstand the rules of the game, which he routinely does in formal settings. This is the same man who leaked his ex's diaries while she was testifying against him, which led to his bail being revoked https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/technology/sam-bankman-fried-jail.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/technology/sam-bankman-fr...
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago> I expect him to royally misunderstand the rules of the game What a weird take on his behavior. His parents are law professors, he had an army of lawyers working for him at the time, yet he just didn't care and did what he felt like, knowing full well the damage it would do, because that was the whole point. There is no misunderstanding, it was just indifference.
- setgree 3y agoSBF was not indifferent to going to jail... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/technology/sam-bankman-fried-jail-peanut-butter-vegan.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/technology/sam-bankman-fr... https://nypost.com/2023/08/24/why-sam-bankman-fried-likely-wont-get-adderall-while-locked-up-in-brooklyn-jail/ https://nypost.com/2023/08/24/why-sam-bankman-fried-likely-w...
- Simon_ORourke 3y ago> it was just indifference. Absolutely spot on, and to paraphrase Tallyrand, it was worse than a crime, it was indifference.
- compiler-guy 3y agoThis was true for a long time, but the "First Step" act, passed I think in 2021, increased the good behavior credit maximum to 50%. Realistically then, SBF is looking at 11.5 years if he can stay out of trouble, which is relatively easy for white-collar criminals in relatively low security prisons. Federal rules still don't have parole.
- FireBeyond 3y agoThe big problem for SBF I think is that he's been shown to have "no filter", or no regard for accepted norms. That could bite him even in federal prison (and he has to go to a medium security, I believe, because of the length of the sentence). Piss off an inmate and get in an even slight altercation, lose some of your good behavior points. 12.5 years would be possible only if he scored 100% on good behavior.
- ufo 3y ago(as described in the linked article)
- bjacobel 3y agoHe's proven repeatedly that he's incapable of abiding by the conditions of his parole. What makes everyone in this thread so sure he'll demonstrate "good behavior"?
- zer0x4d 3y agoLet's be honest here, "good behavior" is extremely easy to demonstrate in prison where everyone else is constantly getting in fights, beating up guards, etc. It's not a high bar and a person like SBF should easily be able to do that.
- hackermailman 3y agoThere is many other ways to get written up and lose time credits like sharing commissary, having too many books, and sometimes fighting is not optional if your cellmates are into stupid things and drag you with them. It depends if he is sent to a USP like regular federal convicts or club fed minimum because of his connections. Typically club fed you can only get through a plea bargain like Madoff or through years of good time credits.
- ddorian43 3y agoIIRC it was federal, where you need to do 2/3, no?
- vadansky 3y agoIt's been posted a thousand times already, there is no parole for federal sentences.
- AtlasBarfed 3y agoThere is, however, pardons. He'll probably need to wait about 2-4 terms, but eventually the bribery ... uh ... mercy will go through.
- m3kw9 3y agoso what would the presidents excuse be? “I feel he shouldn’t get 25, and he’s free to go”? Or “his crime wasn’t that bad”? Just wondering
- eadmund 3y agoThe pardon power is constitutionally absolute and unreviewable — the president can pardon for any reason, or none. Some people dislike that, but I personally like it, because it acts as an ultimate safety valve on the state’s ability to persecute an individual.
- ceejayoz 3y agoThe question is more "why would the President self-immolate themselves politically for someone who appears to have minimal actual political capital, especially now that they're broke?"
- toast0 3y agoPresidents generally don't suffer much from pardoning the wrong person. There's maybe one President that didn't get elected because of his use of the pardon. But then, Ford wasn't elected President or Vice President before he pardoned Nixon either. Otherwise, I'm not aware of a pardon so controversial that it became a major campaign issue. And for a second term President, there's not really any downside.
- danpalmer 3y agoA cushy job as a guest speaker at fancy dinners for finance people perhaps?
- tempsy 3y agoThere’s no parole in federal cases
- carabiner 3y agoHe'll be out around 2040: https://x.com/wagieeacc/status/1768798879959400776?s=46&t=N5oP9SrFuyxd0pRLixzkBQ https://x.com/wagieeacc/status/1768798879959400776?s=46&t=N5... Shkreli far and away has been providing the most informed analysis of this case. He trashed the letters to the judge from SBF's parents, then Judge Kaplan went on to raise the exact points Shkreli said he would.
- moralestapia 3y agoShkreli is a smart guy that also went through that, so yeah, I was also happily following his commentary of this.
- tempsy 3y agoThat’s an old tweet from 2 weeks ago.
- notreallyauser 3y agoThat was based on a sentence of 20 and he got 25 -- so closer to 2044, I guess.
- CyberDildonics 3y agoI guess he learned a lot about law after bait and switching AIDS patients and committing "widespread fraud" (SEC's words).
- FireBeyond 3y ago> 25 years isn't a death sentence for him Parole is available after 1/3 of term, realistically he won't serve 100% Federal prison does not have parole. Only good behavior options. But that could reduce it to 12.5, if he hits all behavior targets.
- jojo100 3y agoWhat a travesty of American justice. He'll be out in 12-13 years and will jet off to the mansion he bought for his parents in the Bahamas with his customer's money. You just know the smug felon has a huge BC wallet Caroline is hiding for him. He's directly responsible for the 3+ suicides that have happened due to his deception and theft but he'll live in luxury for his silver and golden days. And people are on here arguing that this sentence is too long. How laughable.