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> I find that more often than not, when I pick up a sci-fi novel, it turns out to just be a detective novel innn spaaaaace Detective novels in space can still

> I find that more often than not, when I pick up a sci-fi novel, it turns out to just be a detective novel innn spaaaaace Detective novels in space can still be good, and much better than the current crop of Hollywood garbage. I'm still quite bitter about what Amazon did to The Expanse. First legit sci-fi we get in years, and they devolved it into "muscle bound hero shoots aliens with laser gun" within one season of acquiring it from SyFy.

throwway120385 3y ago
To be clear, we're talking about Roberta Draper here right?
- ramesh31 3y ago
  Just every character of the main crew in general. The SyFy seasons were very Firefly-esque; regular people doing their best to get by and fulfill their own personal goals. Then all of the sudden it's just "OK, we're all space marines on an epic mission to save the galaxy now".
  - throwway120385 3y ago
    It's kinda how the books went too. Nemesis Games and so on were very much about the personal war between Holden and a certain other person.
StevePerkins 3y ago
Have you actually read the books? That TV series was one of the most true to its adapted source material. Amazon didn't pivot from a detective story to an action story. Abraham and Franck (aka James S.A. Corey), the authors, did. After the arc from the first trilogy of books wrapped up.
- ramesh31 3y ago
  >Amazon didn't pivot from a detective story to an action story. Abraham and Franck (aka James S.A. Corey), the authors, did. After the arc from the first trilogy of books wrapped up. Well then I don't know what to think now. This seems to be a problem for artists in general. You spend your entire life coming up with an incredible work, and once its released to the world and everyone agrees that it's incredible, now there's all this pressure to followup. The second story arc comes off as just completely sophmorish in every possible sense of the word.
  - Kluggy 3y ago
    They actually planned for the three major overtones and the nine minor theme variations from the start. You may disagree with the results, but it wasn't modified due to outside pressure.

throwway120385 3y ago

To be clear, we're talking about Roberta Draper here right?

ramesh31 3y ago
Just every character of the main crew in general. The SyFy seasons were very Firefly-esque; regular people doing their best to get by and fulfill their own personal goals. Then all of the sudden it's just "OK, we're all space marines on an epic mission to save the galaxy now".
- throwway120385 3y ago
  It's kinda how the books went too. Nemesis Games and so on were very much about the personal war between Holden and a certain other person.

StevePerkins 3y ago

Have you actually read the books? That TV series was one of the most true to its adapted source material. Amazon didn't pivot from a detective story to an action story. Abraham and Franck (aka James S.A. Corey), the authors, did. After the arc from the first trilogy of books wrapped up.

ramesh31 3y ago
>Amazon didn't pivot from a detective story to an action story. Abraham and Franck (aka James S.A. Corey), the authors, did. After the arc from the first trilogy of books wrapped up. Well then I don't know what to think now. This seems to be a problem for artists in general. You spend your entire life coming up with an incredible work, and once its released to the world and everyone agrees that it's incredible, now there's all this pressure to followup. The second story arc comes off as just completely sophmorish in every possible sense of the word.
- Kluggy 3y ago
  They actually planned for the three major overtones and the nine minor theme variations from the start. You may disagree with the results, but it wasn't modified due to outside pressure.