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> I will be surprised to reach AGI without nearing the Order-of-Magnitude of brain processing. I have some theories that this isn't necessary. 1.) Just becaus

> I will be surprised to reach AGI without nearing the Order-of-Magnitude of brain processing. I have some theories that this isn't necessary. 1.) Just because the brain is a general-purpose machine great at doing lots of things, doesn't mean it's great at each of those things. Like when two people are playing catch, and one of them sees the first fragments of a parabola and estimates where the ball is going to land- a computer can calculate that way more efficiently than a mind, despite the fact that both are quick enough to get the job done. 2.) While the brain is great at, say, putting names to faces... a good CV machine can do the job almost as well, and can annotate a video stream in real-time. Combining 1.) the fact that some problems are much simpler to solve with classical algorithms instead of neural networking, and 2.) that many brain tasks can be farmed out to a coprocessor/service, my hypothesis is that the number of neurons/resources required to do the "secret sauce" part of agi could be greatly reduced.

Galaxeblaffer 3y ago
I'm also in the camp that believes that we won't reach agi without significantly more compute. I think that consciousness is an emergent property, just like i think life itself is an emergent property, Both need a certain set elements/systems to work. The secret sauce may look simple when we recreate the right conditions, but it's not going to be something that makes it possible without the right hardware so to speak.
- knodi123 3y ago
  But, take for instance, sight. Sighted people use a large percentage of their brain to process visual input. People born congenitally blind are no smarter or dumber for their brains not having to process that input- so clearly that's not the secret sauce. I'm not convinced consciousness is emergent, I don't really have an opinion on _that_- but I'm > 50% convinced that consciousness itself doesn't require a neural network as large as a human brain's.

Galaxeblaffer 3y ago

I'm also in the camp that believes that we won't reach agi without significantly more compute. I think that consciousness is an emergent property, just like i think life itself is an emergent property, Both need a certain set elements/systems to work. The secret sauce may look simple when we recreate the right conditions, but it's not going to be something that makes it possible without the right hardware so to speak.

knodi123 3y ago
But, take for instance, sight. Sighted people use a large percentage of their brain to process visual input. People born congenitally blind are no smarter or dumber for their brains not having to process that input- so clearly that's not the secret sauce. I'm not convinced consciousness is emergent, I don't really have an opinion on _that_- but I'm > 50% convinced that consciousness itself doesn't require a neural network as large as a human brain's.