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You can choose between using the system's webview as your renderer or an experimental WGPU-based engine that pulls in stylo (the piece of servo shared with Fire

You can choose between using the system's webview as your renderer or an experimental WGPU-based engine that pulls in stylo (the piece of servo shared with Firefox). We're hoping to move folks to the WGPU renderer in the long term, but it's still pretty raw and many companies using Dioxus are pragmatic enough to know that a webview is a good enough solution for like 90% of apps.

littlestymaar 3y ago
I had a mixed feeling about your idea of writing your own HTML renderer (because making it so it is actually compatible with how browser engine are rendering their stuff is actually very hard, and even browser vendors don't actually agree on how everything should render) but seeing that you are leveraging work from servo, and even hired a former mozillian in that effort makes me much more confident in your ability to actually deliver. I wish you good luck!
ryukoposting 3y ago
Food for thought: I have started, stopped, rewrote, given up, and restarted development of a visual novel engine over and over again. My vision is something kind of like Ren'Py[1] but with cross-device game saves, cleaner packaging, improved DRM, better support for complex nonlinear plot development, and better tools for developing game mechanics that go beyond clicking through paragraphs of text. A mobile/desktop/web-friendly GUI library that handles both conventional UI elements and 2D graphics elegantly would be a total game-changer for that project, which I'm hoping to get back to eventually. I won't go into deep detail on my last stab at this project, but it involved making my own Ruby DSL compiler, making my own Ruby-to-Nim FFI library, and SDL2. It was pretty cool, and much faster than you'd expect, but also not very portable, and also nowhere close to complete. [1]: https://renpy.org/ https://renpy.org/
tvshtr 3y ago
The only webview I've seen used under Linux is gtk WebKit, which sucks ass. I really really hope that stylo/servo will eventually get there.

littlestymaar 3y ago

I had a mixed feeling about your idea of writing your own HTML renderer (because making it so it is actually compatible with how browser engine are rendering their stuff is actually very hard, and even browser vendors don't actually agree on how everything should render) but seeing that you are leveraging work from servo, and even hired a former mozillian in that effort makes me much more confident in your ability to actually deliver. I wish you good luck!

ryukoposting 3y ago

Food for thought: I have started, stopped, rewrote, given up, and restarted development of a visual novel engine over and over again. My vision is something kind of like Ren'Py[1] but with cross-device game saves, cleaner packaging, improved DRM, better support for complex nonlinear plot development, and better tools for developing game mechanics that go beyond clicking through paragraphs of text. A mobile/desktop/web-friendly GUI library that handles both conventional UI elements and 2D graphics elegantly would be a total game-changer for that project, which I'm hoping to get back to eventually. I won't go into deep detail on my last stab at this project, but it involved making my own Ruby DSL compiler, making my own Ruby-to-Nim FFI library, and SDL2. It was pretty cool, and much faster than you'd expect, but also not very portable, and also nowhere close to complete. [1]: https://renpy.org/ https://renpy.org/

tvshtr 3y ago

The only webview I've seen used under Linux is gtk WebKit, which sucks ass. I really really hope that stylo/servo will eventually get there.