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Basically nothing of that applies to my main devices: Macs, iPads, iPhones. None of those use CUA (-> the Apple UI guidelines for those are either older (Mac)

• lproven 3y ago
  It applies to Macs, yes, and more than you'd think. OS X adopted more CUA stuff than Classic had... whereas the design of CUA inherited a large amount from Classic MacOS and modified it both to add more key controls, and to avoid a look-and-feel lawsuit like the one that crippled PC GEM. Command is Super. Came key, same scancode, etc. Just a different name. Very broadly, if one remaps the bottom left keyboard key on a Mac to Cmd, and the Super key to Ctrl, then CUA control keys all Just Work™ on Mac OS X. This is in fact how I normally use Macs when using a PC keyboard on them. So, no, I disagree on all points. (I don't really care about the phones. I don't own them or use them.) I've spent considerable time over decades studying this and I disagree with every point here.
  • lispm 3y ago
    Classic is long dead. OS X does not exist anymore. It's now called macOS and the UI is merging with iOS and iPadOS user interfaces for some time now, because that's where many new users are coming from. Even for Microsoft: many users will now use something like the Microsoft Office suite in a web browser. Take the current "Apple Pages" text editor / layout program. https://www.apple.com/pages/ https://www.apple.com/pages/ It does not look and feel a bit like CUA. Not 10% of the UI works like in Microsoft Word... For our entertainment: On my MacBook Pro keyboard I mapped the Lisp Machine keys: control = control, meta = option, symbol = command, right super = right command, right hyper = right option So I get from left to right: control, meta, option, super, hyper. I use it, even though it is not CUA compatible. :-)
    • CRConrad 3y ago
      > OS X does not exist anymore. It's now called macOS So then it does exist. Otherwise it wouldn't be called anything any more.