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I too am a libertarian moon-man.

edgyquant 3y ago
It’s not really a libertarian thing. Society has to balance more than just the wants or concerns of scientists and they have no more right than anyone else to dictate what we do with the moon.
- KyleBerezin 3y ago
  Its a joke. It sounds like a normal libertarian argument, but on the moon. If you want a more serious answer though, we have multiple treaties and moratoriums on what is, and is not allowed in space and on the moon. They were agreed upon because we have mutual interests, and want to preserve humanities future of spaceflight and research. - https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/introouterspacetreaty.html https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/int... - https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/introliability-convention.html#:~:text=Elaborating%20on%20Article%207%20of,to%20its%20faults%20in%20space https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/int.... - https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/introregistration-convention.html https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/int... - https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/intromoon-agreement.html https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/int...
  - edgyquant 3y ago
    Treaties can be updated or even ignored if new economic or technological realities come into play.
    - KyleBerezin 3y ago
      The impermanence of law is a different discussion. I was just providing you with the precedent that such a rule would likely build off of.
  - cmrdporcupine 3y ago
    These kinds of threads are entertaining to me, to see how various strands of libertarian/techno-capitalist are confronted with explaining how apparently-immutable-and-eternal property rights originate. The ones where they basically admit it comes down to "who has the most guns" are the best.
  - nirav72 3y ago
    Are these treaties binding? I know there can be other repercussions for signatories for violating treaties. But usually there are no clear rules on what the repercussions should be. Also , since signatories are nation-states, not sure how individuals could be held accountable for any violations by the international community. Such as private corporations

It’s not really a libertarian thing. Society has to balance more than just the wants or concerns of scientists and they have no more right than anyone else to dictate what we do with the moon.

KyleBerezin 3y ago
Its a joke. It sounds like a normal libertarian argument, but on the moon. If you want a more serious answer though, we have multiple treaties and moratoriums on what is, and is not allowed in space and on the moon. They were agreed upon because we have mutual interests, and want to preserve humanities future of spaceflight and research. - https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/introouterspacetreaty.html https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/int... - https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/introliability-convention.html#:~:text=Elaborating%20on%20Article%207%20of,to%20its%20faults%20in%20space https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/int.... - https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/introregistration-convention.html https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/int... - https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/intromoon-agreement.html https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/int...
- edgyquant 3y ago
  Treaties can be updated or even ignored if new economic or technological realities come into play.
  - KyleBerezin 3y ago
    The impermanence of law is a different discussion. I was just providing you with the precedent that such a rule would likely build off of.
- cmrdporcupine 3y ago
  These kinds of threads are entertaining to me, to see how various strands of libertarian/techno-capitalist are confronted with explaining how apparently-immutable-and-eternal property rights originate. The ones where they basically admit it comes down to "who has the most guns" are the best.
- nirav72 3y ago
  Are these treaties binding? I know there can be other repercussions for signatories for violating treaties. But usually there are no clear rules on what the repercussions should be. Also , since signatories are nation-states, not sure how individuals could be held accountable for any violations by the international community. Such as private corporations