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> An AI chip with questionable software support. As many can attest with the random "ARM SBC of the day" the Raspberry Pi continues to reign supreme because th
by kkielhofner 3y ago
> An AI chip with questionable software support.
As many can attest with the random "ARM SBC of the day" the Raspberry Pi continues to reign supreme because the software and ecosystem is second to none in the ARM SBC space. You can Google "[insert project/task here] raspberry pi" and unless it's completely ridiculous you will have your pick of implementations, how-to guides, and things that are often packaged up really nicely for even the novice Raspberry Pi user.
NPUs on ARM boards are nothing new. Like many people I have a graveyard of SBCs including things like the Khadas VIM3 (2019). If you Google "khadas npu" you will find that it basically only supports OpenCV and that took three years[0]. That's not nothing but compared to GPU it almost is.
The BeagleBone ecosystem is likely the clear very distant second to Raspberry Pi. I'm hoping they do better.
As we can see from the near-absolute dominance of CUDA (> 90% market share) software support and ecosystem matters much, much more than "X TOPS".
[0] - https://opencv.org/blog/working-with-neural-processing-units-npus-using-opencv/ https://opencv.org/blog/working-with-neural-processing-units...
- moffkalast 3y agoSpeaking of CUDA, Nvidia's probably somewhere close to Beaglebone in support for their Jetsons. Though the Jetpack builds are all there is, so everyone's just resigned to dockerize anything they want to actually work on them lol. Getting the cheapest Orin Nano with 20 TOPS for ~2.5x the price of this is still probably the better choice for any proper inference.
- synergy20 3y agocheapest Orin nano board is $499,a 7x difference?
- moffkalast 3y agoI think you can get the 4GB Orin Nano for $200 from some sellers, but yeah they used to be cheaper.
- synergy20 3y agoI too found the $499 8GB Orin Nano(I have one) is too expensive for some applications, but I never found any board with 4GB Orin Nano on it. Not a board maker myself, it will be nice that someone is doing boards with 4GM Orin Nano on it. The cheapest carrier board I could find: https://shop-us.avermedia.com/products/avermedia-standard-carrier-board-d131 https://shop-us.avermedia.com/products/avermedia-standard-ca... and 4GB Orin Nano full board is $499: https://www.seeedstudio.com/reComputer-J3010-p-5589.html https://www.seeedstudio.com/reComputer-J3010-p-5589.html