lets start with a 4/5g telephone with MMS, a calculator, a camera...no apps, no google/apple/spyware and a qwerty keyboard - we can talk after those parts are

lets start with a 4/5g telephone with MMS, a calculator, a camera...no apps, no google/apple/spyware and a qwerty keyboard - we can talk after those parts are down. Because right now - we still dont have that. Nor do we have enough people that desire that outside of a tiny percentage of HNers that might want it :/