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If someone really needs to drive into Manhattan most days perhaps they should move to a place that's close to a PATH, LIRR, Metro-North, subway, ferry, or other

If someone really needs to drive into Manhattan most days perhaps they should move to a place that's close to a PATH, LIRR, Metro-North, subway, ferry, or other transit system. > The residents "dealing with the costs" also need things delivered This generally works in favor of people within the congestion zone, because time is money and delivery drivers can do far more deliveries per hour. > or a ride to the places mass transit doesn't support Residents of Manhattan below 59th can easily take one of the above-mentioned transit options to get to Jersey City, Queens, Brooklyn, or Harlem, and get in an Uber or Zipcar from there. But if someone needs to do this most days, perhaps they shouldn't be living in Manhattan.

ectospheno 3y ago
I love the “just move bro” responses to things like this.
- cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
  Almost as good as the “let’s just do nothing” responses.
  - ectospheno 3y ago
    Guess which one is actually possible for the average person.
    - batch12 3y ago
      Both really. One is just easier than the other.
- thedrbrian 3y ago
  just liek stop being poor or sOmEThing....
NovemberWhiskey 3y ago
>If someone really needs to drive into Manhattan most days perhaps they should move to a place that's close to a PATH, LIRR, Metro-North, subway, ferry, or other transit system. So "not in Queens", then? Jesus Christ.
- busterarm 3y ago
  Shame to see you so downvoted. The spoiled rich fucks on this board have absolutely no idea just how inaccessible or poorly accessible most of the outer boroughs are and think that a 2-3hr commute (oh those perfectly-running subway lines!) is a perfectly reasonable alternative to paying $5000/mo for a studio. They're also tripping over themselves to kick every rent stabilized (and statistically-insignificant rent controlled) renter to the invisible corners of the city where their less career-blessed asses belong.
  - hparadiz 3y ago
    Honestly NYC is a shit show and I don't know why people live there. SI to Manhattan takes like 2 hours at best. You don't even really get any benefit from living in NYC in the outer boroughs.
  - persolb 3y ago
    I think the main response would be ‘then dont live there’. I live in a city cheaper than NYC, but I moved to a cheaper area further out due to cost. Land is unfortunately limited. Someone else is willing to pay more for the space than I am. I understand moving sucks and prices in areas change, but this is still an area where a functioning market is better on whole.
    - busterarm 3y ago
      > ‘then dont live there’ I hear you but for most people that translates to "don't be born there". Most of the same people who would tell you if you can't afford it move out are the same people who think NYC should be a sanctuary city for illegal immigrants because they were born in unfortunate circumstances and desire a better life. I've moved in and out of NYC several times and each of those moves ended up costing between 5k and 10k in expenses. Broke people can't afford that shit.
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lancesells 3y ago
I live in Brooklyn and have a rarely used car. I'm 100% onboard with taking the train, walking, or biking. There should be so many more open streets as well. The only issue I have with any of this is when I want to LEAVE the city. I pay tolls on the way out and on the way in currently that get me close to $30. Now it's closer to $45 if I enter the zone.
- SauciestGNU 3y ago
  Ok but New Jersey charges people to leave, and leaving Jersey is a hot commodity! I have to admit that's an expensive trip to leave and return to the city now. Might be nice if there were a discount for verified residents of Manhattan, but given existing issues with placard abuse throughout the NYPD I bet any exceptions would get abused to hell and back.

ectospheno 3y ago

I love the “just move bro” responses to things like this.

cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
Almost as good as the “let’s just do nothing” responses.
- ectospheno 3y ago
  Guess which one is actually possible for the average person.
  - batch12 3y ago
    Both really. One is just easier than the other.
thedrbrian 3y ago
just liek stop being poor or sOmEThing....

NovemberWhiskey 3y ago

>If someone really needs to drive into Manhattan most days perhaps they should move to a place that's close to a PATH, LIRR, Metro-North, subway, ferry, or other transit system. So "not in Queens", then? Jesus Christ.

busterarm 3y ago
Shame to see you so downvoted. The spoiled rich fucks on this board have absolutely no idea just how inaccessible or poorly accessible most of the outer boroughs are and think that a 2-3hr commute (oh those perfectly-running subway lines!) is a perfectly reasonable alternative to paying $5000/mo for a studio. They're also tripping over themselves to kick every rent stabilized (and statistically-insignificant rent controlled) renter to the invisible corners of the city where their less career-blessed asses belong.
- hparadiz 3y ago
  Honestly NYC is a shit show and I don't know why people live there. SI to Manhattan takes like 2 hours at best. You don't even really get any benefit from living in NYC in the outer boroughs.
- persolb 3y ago
  I think the main response would be ‘then dont live there’. I live in a city cheaper than NYC, but I moved to a cheaper area further out due to cost. Land is unfortunately limited. Someone else is willing to pay more for the space than I am. I understand moving sucks and prices in areas change, but this is still an area where a functioning market is better on whole.
  - busterarm 3y ago
    > ‘then dont live there’ I hear you but for most people that translates to "don't be born there". Most of the same people who would tell you if you can't afford it move out are the same people who think NYC should be a sanctuary city for illegal immigrants because they were born in unfortunate circumstances and desire a better life. I've moved in and out of NYC several times and each of those moves ended up costing between 5k and 10k in expenses. Broke people can't afford that shit.

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lancesells 3y ago

I live in Brooklyn and have a rarely used car. I'm 100% onboard with taking the train, walking, or biking. There should be so many more open streets as well. The only issue I have with any of this is when I want to LEAVE the city. I pay tolls on the way out and on the way in currently that get me close to $30. Now it's closer to $45 if I enter the zone.

SauciestGNU 3y ago
Ok but New Jersey charges people to leave, and leaving Jersey is a hot commodity! I have to admit that's an expensive trip to leave and return to the city now. Might be nice if there were a discount for verified residents of Manhattan, but given existing issues with placard abuse throughout the NYPD I bet any exceptions would get abused to hell and back.