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yeah, and he made sure the public thought that the "hacker" that got into his system was a dangerous communist criminal, when it was a fact just a scool kid tha

yeah, and he made sure the public thought that the "hacker" that got into his system was a dangerous communist criminal, when it was a fact just a scool kid that even got killed as a result of that whole ordeal. Mr. Stoll has (or at least had) a weird sense of right and wrong, and if what happened to Karl Koch would happen today, he would surely get canceled into oblivion. He might have started the actual "cybersecurity" idea, but he did it with methods similar to todays companies that paint security researchers as evil hackers or "the bad guys" Edit: I just want to add the disclaimer that it's hard to fault him for what he did though, times were different back then, and the cold war was still ongoing... So probably every American would have acted in a similar way

mlyle 3y ago
> yeah, and he made sure the public thought that the "hacker" that got into his system was a dangerous communist criminal, when it was a fact just a scool kid that even got killed as a result of that whole ordeal. Hess sold information to the KGB. He was 26 years old at the time of the Cuckoo's Egg. He was prosecuted successfully for espionage. As far as I know, he is still alive. You're referring to one person in the ring that penetrated US governmental facilities, Karl Koch. He was 20 at the time. He had been granted immunity from prosecution. He died 3 years later, potentially from suicide. Your comment seems either disingenuous or wrong.
- th0ma5 3y ago
  There was an additional edit. I agree with that sentiment, I don't necessarily blame Mr. Stoll and I would probably do the same if I were in his shoes to be honest, but the exaggerations had a major developmental detriment to me. The god damned bottles are pretty amazing. The damn criminals were wrong, and it is good that he was able to bring justice. For all the things I have fault with, he increased visibility on a lot of issues.

mlyle 3y ago

> yeah, and he made sure the public thought that the "hacker" that got into his system was a dangerous communist criminal, when it was a fact just a scool kid that even got killed as a result of that whole ordeal. Hess sold information to the KGB. He was 26 years old at the time of the Cuckoo's Egg. He was prosecuted successfully for espionage. As far as I know, he is still alive. You're referring to one person in the ring that penetrated US governmental facilities, Karl Koch. He was 20 at the time. He had been granted immunity from prosecution. He died 3 years later, potentially from suicide. Your comment seems either disingenuous or wrong.

th0ma5 3y ago
There was an additional edit. I agree with that sentiment, I don't necessarily blame Mr. Stoll and I would probably do the same if I were in his shoes to be honest, but the exaggerations had a major developmental detriment to me. The god damned bottles are pretty amazing. The damn criminals were wrong, and it is good that he was able to bring justice. For all the things I have fault with, he increased visibility on a lot of issues.