> I'd assume driving in it is a fairly miserable experience Driving in Manhattan is actually pretty pleasant, all things considered. Wouldn't even make a top 1

> I'd assume driving in it is a fairly miserable experience Driving in Manhattan is actually pretty pleasant, all things considered. Wouldn't even make a top 10 list for me of worst places to drive in the US. I think in part because there's a weird selection bias where people think it will be bad, so bad drivers don't even attempt, and you're left with a cohort that, on average, has above-average driving skills. Seattle on the other hand? Worst driver's in the US by a country mile.