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> But shouldn't pollution and noise be pretty much solved in the foreseeable future, I suppose, with EVs on the rise? The loudest noise is tire noise.

rbetts 3y ago
In NYC, I'm pretty sure it is the horn (and the siren) ;-)
pgodzin 3y ago
Tire wear also contributes the most to PM2.5 pollution, and EVs are heavier and produce more wear
- kleiba 3y ago
  Interesting. Do you have a source to back up the part about EVs?
  - Solvency 3y ago
    You need a source to tell you EVs are heavier? This is a basic fact.
    - programjames 3y ago
      > This is a basic fact. Clearly they don't want a source, it's just malicious ignorance. After all, if they really wanted to know it'd be far easier to click the "plus" button on their browser and ask DuckDuckGo.
      - kleiba 3y ago
        Funny that you should mention that, because the first hit I get when I type "EVs PM2.5 pollution" into my search engine is a Science Direct article that contains the following quote: "Findings demonstrate that EV adoption can significantly alleviate PM2.5 pollution." Not that I am one to blindly believe whatever happens to show up at the top of my search results, but it shows the ridiculousness of your argument about how easy it is to just do a web search. So I'd recommend for next time, keep your clairvoyance to yourself (because I "clearly" did want a source) and while your add it, perhaps also your offences ("malicious ignorance").
  - gdelfino01 3y ago
    https://www.emissionsanalytics.com/news/gaining-traction-losing-tread https://www.emissionsanalytics.com/news/gaining-traction-los...
kcb 3y ago
The real loudest noise at city speeds is mostly jerks with modified exhaust or occasionally a large diesel truck.
- kleiba 3y ago
  If that is true then I doubt that this new fee will solve the noise problem.
- rodgerd 3y ago
  Good news! Dodge are catering to that demographic with "the "Fratzonic Chambered Exhaust," which combines chambers and speakers under the car, plus some actual pipes" for all their anti-social needs.
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baron816 3y ago
This is generally the case in most cities, but less so at lower Manhattan speeds. Large diesel trucks produce a lot of pollution and noise. But those will take longer to electrify.

rbetts 3y ago

In NYC, I'm pretty sure it is the horn (and the siren) ;-)

pgodzin 3y ago

Tire wear also contributes the most to PM2.5 pollution, and EVs are heavier and produce more wear

kleiba 3y ago
Interesting. Do you have a source to back up the part about EVs?
- Solvency 3y ago
  You need a source to tell you EVs are heavier? This is a basic fact.
  - programjames 3y ago
    > This is a basic fact. Clearly they don't want a source, it's just malicious ignorance. After all, if they really wanted to know it'd be far easier to click the "plus" button on their browser and ask DuckDuckGo.
    - kleiba 3y ago
      Funny that you should mention that, because the first hit I get when I type "EVs PM2.5 pollution" into my search engine is a Science Direct article that contains the following quote: "Findings demonstrate that EV adoption can significantly alleviate PM2.5 pollution." Not that I am one to blindly believe whatever happens to show up at the top of my search results, but it shows the ridiculousness of your argument about how easy it is to just do a web search. So I'd recommend for next time, keep your clairvoyance to yourself (because I "clearly" did want a source) and while your add it, perhaps also your offences ("malicious ignorance").
- gdelfino01 3y ago
  https://www.emissionsanalytics.com/news/gaining-traction-losing-tread https://www.emissionsanalytics.com/news/gaining-traction-los...

kcb 3y ago

The real loudest noise at city speeds is mostly jerks with modified exhaust or occasionally a large diesel truck.

kleiba 3y ago
If that is true then I doubt that this new fee will solve the noise problem.
rodgerd 3y ago
Good news! Dodge are catering to that demographic with "the "Fratzonic Chambered Exhaust," which combines chambers and speakers under the car, plus some actual pipes" for all their anti-social needs.
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baron816 3y ago

This is generally the case in most cities, but less so at lower Manhattan speeds. Large diesel trucks produce a lot of pollution and noise. But those will take longer to electrify.