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'We’re conducting in-person interviews for the Summer 2024 batch for current undergraduate or graduate students at universities in the northeastern US.' Why ar
by Bostonian 3y ago
'We’re conducting in-person interviews for the Summer 2024 batch for current undergraduate or graduate students at universities in the northeastern US.'
Why are recent BA/BS, MS, and PhD graduates excluded?
- ramijames 3y agoOr those of us with no degrees and decades of experience? I'm in Boston.
- internetter 3y agoPresumably because they want to work with students instead of people with decades of experience?
- beastman82 3y agoOr perhaps this is ageism
- internetter 3y agoForgive me as I have little sympathy for middle aged adults calling "agism!!!" whenever an opportunity is presented to a college student that wasn't also presented to them
- endisneigh 3y agoI mean isn’t that literally ageism? I don’t have any opinion on whether it’s acceptable or not here but come on…
- internetter 3y agoThere's also no rules saying middle aged adults cannot be college students. The only agist policy here is that you need to be 18 to apply, and nobody bat their eye at that.
- endisneigh 3y agoYes there are. A 50 year old man cannot enter Harvard college.
- sodality2 3y agoWhy not?
- endisneigh 3y agoThat’s simply their rule.
- sodality2 3y agoWhere is this rule? Even in your other reply you say there's "no strict limitation" so it's not a "rule", just a trend.
- endisneigh 3y agoDorm rules mainly. Like I mention in a sibling comment, given the demographics and the arbitrariness of the decision it’s effectively ageism without being explicit.
- internetter 3y ago1 in 10 college students in the US is 40 or older
- endisneigh 3y agoThat’s not relevant - the schools in the area do not have undergraduates in their middle age. Middle aged college students usually attend extension schools part of the university, but not part of the undergraduate college. In any case there’s no strict limitation on being an undergraduate at say 60 (I believe Harvard Colleges oldest graduate was in their 80s), but it’s so exceptionally rare it’s ageism. There’s no reason why one would need to be an undergraduate.
- Arisaka1 3y agoI do think you are entitled to filter for a specific age group implicitly, but it doesn't make it any less discriminatory. Example: statistically the odds of someone graduating from college being over 30 are low. Therefore if I claim that I hire college graduates I get to also filter implicitly by age. Then the question is: assuming an inherent bias of sample, is it desirable or undesirable to introduce a "function" that attempts some mitigation? I see the "functions" that attempt to mitigate sexism, racism but not ageism. It feels like companies or organizations are just fine with slapping a paragraph at the end of an announcement that parrots "we are inclusive trust us" without any real adjustment and call it a day.
- throwaway35777 3y agoStudents are willing to work hard for free for the 0.001% chance that they'll be the next Mark Zuckerberg.
- internetter 3y ago> Students are willing to work hard for free for the 0.001% The best startups run lean anyway. I'd argue this is the proper way to run one, as opposed to taking mountains of VC money and burning up in a year
- rchaud 3y agoAlso won't raise as many eyebrows when they're taught how to manufacture valuations with little to no basis in reality.
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- graiz 3y agoWhy assume that they are excluded?
- throwaway2016a 3y agoLooks like it's a special opportunity for students to interview early and not excluding non-students from interviewing through the normal process. Maybe they are concerned the interviews may be overrun with professional founders and they only have 1 day?
- dang 3y agoCollege outreach has been part of YC's recruiting efforts for years. It doesn't mean others are excluded. Certainly everyone who wants to should apply for Startup School!
- confoundcofound 3y agoWould be of great service if YC were more upfront about its biases to applicants. The narrative that YC is an accessible path for anyone seems to contradict the actions taken. Where is the outreach to those outside of elite academic and professional circles?
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- robertlagrant 3y agoEveryone has biases. They don't have to enumerate them at all times. What do you actually want?
- haltIncomplete 3y agoFor YC/HN to peddle fewer platitudes, euphemisms, and equivocations. At what point does preservation of this hallucinated wealth game become forced conservation of history and get in the way of the “freedom” part? Why are we socially trained to accept “people say Musk is rich so it must be true?” It’s all a socialized hallucination backed by government force. It’s kind of a huge joke. Let’s just get drunk and shoot pistols at the workers feet. At least it’s honest.
- robertlagrant 3y ago> Why are we socially trained to accept “people say Musk is rich so it must be true?” We're not socially trained for this. People don't think it's true because people say it. They think it's true because he owns a large stake in a lot of extremely valuable companies.
- MontgomeryPi2 3y agoMaybe an end-around? Here are some Harvard summer courses... https://courses.dce.harvard.edu/?srcdb=202403&summer_school=summer_school_adult_and_college&subject=CSCI&_gl=1*1lcrh55*_ga*MTYzNzQ4ODg4OC4xNzExNTc0Mjcy*_ga_N1Q4JMJ72W*MTcxMTU3NDI3Mi4xLjEuMTcxMTU3NDYzNC40Ny4wLjA https://courses.dce.harvard.edu/?srcdb=202403&summer_school=.... (a long time ago now, I landed a job this way because I said I was "studying at Harvard")