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The current shortages are driven by lower production in West Africa [1] (which accounts for two-thirds of the global crop), not by speculation. The reasons for

by prmph 3y ago

The current shortages are driven by lower production in West Africa [1] (which accounts for two-thirds of the global crop), not by speculation. The reasons for the lower production include drier weather due in part to climate change, a resurgence of the swollen-shoot disease that affects cocoa plants, and illegal mining affecting land on which cocoa is grown. [1]. https://www.fastcompany.com/91065690/cocoa-beans-production-supply-shortage-why https://www.fastcompany.com/91065690/cocoa-beans-production-...

4gotunameagain 3y ago
> drier weather due in part to climate change Climate change is definitely a thing, but you cannot know whether this dry streak is due to climate change.
- jauntywundrkind 3y ago
  We don't have to flog this dead horse every time. Ok, fine. Maybe there's a 0.000001% chance this has nothing to do with climate change (caused by man made global warming at that) & is just a temporary aberration. It's only 99.99999% certain. Is that vanishingly impossible probability worth hopping in to defend? Is it? Do we have to suffer this, every time someone mentions climate change? Why be a denialist? What makes it worth considering this anti-stance for even a second? Why bank so much on the shadow of a doubt?
  - nathanaldensr 3y ago
    "Every news story that even remotely involves the weather is climate change." Well, except for 0.000001% of them.
  - pasttense01 3y ago
    Climate change shows its effects over decades--not over a year or two as has happened with cocoa.
    - defrost 3y ago
      Climate change is entirely capable of ratcheting the La Niña | El Niño ENSO cycle to create the sharpest heat increase in short time on record . . . which is exactly what has happened. https://www.csiro.au/en/news/all/articles/2023/may/climate-change-affecting-el-nino https://www.csiro.au/en/news/all/articles/2023/may/climate-c...
  - 4gotunameagain 3y ago
    I just think that behaviours like that (incessantly blaming climate change when it is not 100% the case) are what feed climate change denialism. Could it be because of climate change ? Maybe. Probably. Will that assertion feed denialists because it is not concrete ? I think so.

by prmph 3y ago

4gotunameagain 3y ago

> drier weather due in part to climate change Climate change is definitely a thing, but you cannot know whether this dry streak is due to climate change.

jauntywundrkind 3y ago
We don't have to flog this dead horse every time. Ok, fine. Maybe there's a 0.000001% chance this has nothing to do with climate change (caused by man made global warming at that) & is just a temporary aberration. It's only 99.99999% certain. Is that vanishingly impossible probability worth hopping in to defend? Is it? Do we have to suffer this, every time someone mentions climate change? Why be a denialist? What makes it worth considering this anti-stance for even a second? Why bank so much on the shadow of a doubt?
- nathanaldensr 3y ago
  "Every news story that even remotely involves the weather is climate change." Well, except for 0.000001% of them.
- pasttense01 3y ago
  Climate change shows its effects over decades--not over a year or two as has happened with cocoa.
  - defrost 3y ago
    Climate change is entirely capable of ratcheting the La Niña | El Niño ENSO cycle to create the sharpest heat increase in short time on record . . . which is exactly what has happened. https://www.csiro.au/en/news/all/articles/2023/may/climate-change-affecting-el-nino https://www.csiro.au/en/news/all/articles/2023/may/climate-c...
- 4gotunameagain 3y ago
  I just think that behaviours like that (incessantly blaming climate change when it is not 100% the case) are what feed climate change denialism. Could it be because of climate change ? Maybe. Probably. Will that assertion feed denialists because it is not concrete ? I think so.