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I have no idea how Silicon Valley could be held responsible for an Israeli intelligence failure. Israel is not a part of the U.S. The author exhibits essentia

I have no idea how Silicon Valley could be held responsible for an Israeli intelligence failure. Israel is not a part of the U.S. The author exhibits essentially zero knowledge of the advances in military intelligence in the past 10-20 years. He’s talking about problems in the Vietnam war and IBM 360 mainframes as if all of the stuff Macnamara dreamed of weren’t daily reality now.

luaybs 3y ago
> Israel is not a part of the U.S. The US sends $3.8B in military aid to Israel yearly...
- wslh 3y ago
  It is not too much if you think Israel is covering US military mistakes and cybersecurity (e.g. Iran).
  - lostlogin 3y ago
    Isn’t this policing of Iran needed because of the US supporting Israel? I know there are other interests (oil), but the complete freedom to do anything that the US gives Israel is not entirely helpful to the US.
    - wslh 3y ago
      Isn’t this policing of Iran needed because of the US supporting Israel? No, do you remember the terrorists attacks in USA and in Europe? Have you watched the Argo movie? Do you know about terrorist attacks in Latin America where Iran is involved? Seems people don't check history beyond Israel (21k km^2)and Jews (16m).
      - sangnoir 3y ago
        I remember the JPCOA and egging on the Trump administration to break the agreement and the subsequent escalations.
- lostlogin 3y ago
  It makes me laugh how it’s always described as aid. If someone gave their friend a gun, would anyone ever call it aid?
  - luaybs 3y ago
    well said
  - bushbaba 3y ago
    That’s over simplifying it. but it’s not aid, more like strategic interests aligned. For example the U.S. aid prevented Israel from continuing development and selling its own fighter jets. It gives U.S. arms actual military exposure in dense urban warfare. There’s lots of joint benefits here.
    - luaybs 3y ago
      There is no benefit other than the profit made by the companies manufacturing this "aid", payed for by the American taxpayer via the US congress and government.
    - nivertech 3y ago
      Real aid must be provided with no strings attached. Much of this so-called "aid" comes with the condition that it be spent in the US. This prevents us from developing our own weapons, selling them to whomever we want, and diversifying our sources of military supplies. In addition, the US provides much more "aid" to our enemies. Also, part of this "aid" is used to financially bribe our generals. Essentially making them American "Foreign Agents of Influence" in the spirit of FARA[1], not as literal spies. Unfortrunatelly we lack legislation like FARA, so it's still legal here. --- [1] https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara
      - lostlogin 3y ago
        > the US provides much more “aid” to our enemies. Could you explain this? The US arms Israel’s enemies?

luaybs 3y ago

> Israel is not a part of the U.S. The US sends $3.8B in military aid to Israel yearly...

wslh 3y ago
It is not too much if you think Israel is covering US military mistakes and cybersecurity (e.g. Iran).
- lostlogin 3y ago
  Isn’t this policing of Iran needed because of the US supporting Israel? I know there are other interests (oil), but the complete freedom to do anything that the US gives Israel is not entirely helpful to the US.
  - wslh 3y ago
    Isn’t this policing of Iran needed because of the US supporting Israel? No, do you remember the terrorists attacks in USA and in Europe? Have you watched the Argo movie? Do you know about terrorist attacks in Latin America where Iran is involved? Seems people don't check history beyond Israel (21k km^2)and Jews (16m).
    - sangnoir 3y ago
      I remember the JPCOA and egging on the Trump administration to break the agreement and the subsequent escalations.
lostlogin 3y ago
It makes me laugh how it’s always described as aid. If someone gave their friend a gun, would anyone ever call it aid?
- luaybs 3y ago
  well said
- bushbaba 3y ago
  That’s over simplifying it. but it’s not aid, more like strategic interests aligned. For example the U.S. aid prevented Israel from continuing development and selling its own fighter jets. It gives U.S. arms actual military exposure in dense urban warfare. There’s lots of joint benefits here.
  - luaybs 3y ago
    There is no benefit other than the profit made by the companies manufacturing this "aid", payed for by the American taxpayer via the US congress and government.
  - nivertech 3y ago
    Real aid must be provided with no strings attached. Much of this so-called "aid" comes with the condition that it be spent in the US. This prevents us from developing our own weapons, selling them to whomever we want, and diversifying our sources of military supplies. In addition, the US provides much more "aid" to our enemies. Also, part of this "aid" is used to financially bribe our generals. Essentially making them American "Foreign Agents of Influence" in the spirit of FARA[1], not as literal spies. Unfortrunatelly we lack legislation like FARA, so it's still legal here. --- [1] https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara
    - lostlogin 3y ago
      > the US provides much more “aid” to our enemies. Could you explain this? The US arms Israel’s enemies?