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I get the point of Qubes. What I am saying is that it doesn't work for my use case and if anyone had a better way of doing it. The solution of running every app

I get the point of Qubes. What I am saying is that it doesn't work for my use case and if anyone had a better way of doing it. The solution of running every application inside a VM for security is nice, but also extremely resource intensive on CPU and RAM requirements and do not make the OS ideal for a laptop. Unless you have a pretty maxed out laptop in terms of specs. While you could argue VM are more secure, other security tools like BSD Jails or containers could offer a similar level of security for a fraction of the resources that QubesOS uses. And if I am really being honest, not many people need that level of security as the main goal of Qubes is to prevent a system compromise, but most people have cell phones, cloud accounts, and are getting their uses names and passwords leaked through security breaches all the time, something that Qubes cannot prevent.

processunknown 3y ago
Spectrum OS aims to more lightweight but its not a drop in replacement nor is it stable afaik. https://spectrum-os.org/ https://spectrum-os.org/
- not_a_real_56 3y ago
  Thanks for the link, reading it now. :)
  - Modified3019 3y ago
    The livestream recordings page (which I am not suggesting you sit down and try to watch, just have a look at the titles/thumbnails) offers a nice peek into the development. IMO it provides a little better context of where the project is at than the project page. https://diode.zone/c/spectrum/videos?s=1 https://diode.zone/c/spectrum/videos?s=1 Nowhere near ready, but definitely a project to check back in yearly on.
fsflover 3y ago
> The solution of running every application inside a VM This is not how you're supposed to run Qubes: https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/#does-qubes-run-every-app-in-a-separate-vm https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/#does-qubes-run-every-app-in-a-... 16 GB of RAM should be sufficient for a simple setup. > other security tools like BSD Jails or containers could offer a similar level of security Not really: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39250975 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39250975

processunknown 3y ago

Spectrum OS aims to more lightweight but its not a drop in replacement nor is it stable afaik. https://spectrum-os.org/ https://spectrum-os.org/

not_a_real_56 3y ago
Thanks for the link, reading it now. :)
- Modified3019 3y ago
  The livestream recordings page (which I am not suggesting you sit down and try to watch, just have a look at the titles/thumbnails) offers a nice peek into the development. IMO it provides a little better context of where the project is at than the project page. https://diode.zone/c/spectrum/videos?s=1 https://diode.zone/c/spectrum/videos?s=1 Nowhere near ready, but definitely a project to check back in yearly on.

fsflover 3y ago

> The solution of running every application inside a VM This is not how you're supposed to run Qubes: https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/#does-qubes-run-every-app-in-a-separate-vm https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/#does-qubes-run-every-app-in-a-... 16 GB of RAM should be sufficient for a simple setup. > other security tools like BSD Jails or containers could offer a similar level of security Not really: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39250975 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39250975