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How about you can use the bathroom when you need to, and if you actually find instances of students not using the bathroom, cutting class, etc. you address it b
by pc86 3y ago
How about you can use the bathroom when you need to, and if you actually find instances of students not using the bathroom, cutting class, etc. you address it by punishing those students. Give them detention. Make them have a chaperone at random times. Suspend them. Punish the behavior you want to regulate (lying about using the bathroom to goof off) and don't try to regulate unrelated and uncontrollable bodily functions.
- kube-system 3y agoI don't disagree but the reason schools are turning to alternatives is because schools can't afford the labor to do those things.
- code_runner 3y agogood point. lets get some bids on the "shit tracking app", pay for a seat for every student and then make sure we further stretch the teachers by giving them a special admin seat in said "shit tracking app" and making sure they punish over-shitters
- kube-system 3y agoStudents also have trouble using the restroom when the facilities are inoperable due to vandalism. There's not really a good solution. What is necessary is more staffing, but there is not enough labor available at the rates school districts are able to pay.
- WarOnPrivacy 3y ago> I don't disagree but the reason schools are turning to alternatives is because schools can't afford the labor to do those things. Hall monitors did this for generations.
- kube-system 3y agoThat would be the labor I'm referring to. The majority of US schools report struggling to hire paraprofessionals. https://www.edweek.org/leadership/how-bad-are-school-staffing-shortages-what-we-learned-by-asking-administrators/2021/10 https://www.edweek.org/leadership/how-bad-are-school-staffin...
- WarOnPrivacy 3y ago>> Hall monitors did this for generations. > That would be the labor I'm referring to. The generations of hall monitors were students. They're free.
- kube-system 3y agoIf the students goofing off in the hall are willing to listen to the nerds who are hall monitors, then that school doesn't really have too much of an issue with delinquent students in the halls. Do you really think other students are best equipped to deal with students having sex, doing drugs, or devious licks in the bathrooms? And in any case, the hall monitors are probably better off in class instead of being unpaid labor.
- WarOnPrivacy 3y agoThose mostly seem like imagined problems. They're trivially addressed - as evidenced by having hall monitors confidently deployed from one generation of school administration to the next.
- kube-system 3y agoGiven the way schools districts are drawn in the US, it highly depends on the locale. Pick any random school in Loudoun County VA and the halls will probably look quite a bit different than some random school in Mobile County AL.