3 ms·

It’s unclear to me whether this is similar to a passport or just a login system for government websites. Seems like the latter, right? If yes, then I don’t unde

It’s unclear to me whether this is similar to a passport or just a login system for government websites. Seems like the latter, right? If yes, then I don’t understand the downside. For context, here in NL we’ve had such a system for some time (“DigID”) and as a citizen I find it infinitely better than the mess we had before. I don’t think that it gives government agencies access to information about me that they didn’t already have.

triggercut 3y ago
There's a system that already exists in Australia (TDIF) based on OAuth and OIDC, but it's not legislated and lacks regulatory oversight. This uplifts and codifies this to a federal level and adds some additional governance and oversight in a similar way to the Consumer Data Right (CDR). It's Authentication/Identity. But really it's a federated system of consent where you can allow one authoritative holder of some information about you to transmit it to another. Simple E.g. omitting many details but say some federal government agency (A) wants my driver's licence number. because I use the same identity for both (A) and my state department of transport (B) I can tell (B) it's ok to send it to (A). (A) and (B) are both in the "network" which is governed by a central Register (R) and verifies each to each other so they can securely share data over standardized channels. The central register does not get involved beyond legitimising (A) and (B) to each other. The benefit is for a lot of cases the specific information stays with the relevant party, you just consent to when one needs to borrow some from another.
twisteriffic 3y ago
Digital ID is on of the constant boogeymen of the modern conspiracy grift industry. Right up there with WEF and vaccines.
- zaphirplane 3y ago
  There are the so called sovereign citizens, 5g and vaccine crowd. In fairness these government centralized identity systems are a big target with a massive radius and it’s almost certain to be hacked
  - snowpid 3y ago
    how many times have Estonia been hacked?
    - iou 3y ago
      There was some writeup from a few years back https://e-estonia.com/estonian-e-state-has-experienced-several-hacking-incidents-as-of-late-what-are-the-lessons-learned/ https://e-estonia.com/estonian-e-state-has-experienced-sever... It’s not going into granularity you may want though.

triggercut 3y ago

There's a system that already exists in Australia (TDIF) based on OAuth and OIDC, but it's not legislated and lacks regulatory oversight. This uplifts and codifies this to a federal level and adds some additional governance and oversight in a similar way to the Consumer Data Right (CDR). It's Authentication/Identity. But really it's a federated system of consent where you can allow one authoritative holder of some information about you to transmit it to another. Simple E.g. omitting many details but say some federal government agency (A) wants my driver's licence number. because I use the same identity for both (A) and my state department of transport (B) I can tell (B) it's ok to send it to (A). (A) and (B) are both in the "network" which is governed by a central Register (R) and verifies each to each other so they can securely share data over standardized channels. The central register does not get involved beyond legitimising (A) and (B) to each other. The benefit is for a lot of cases the specific information stays with the relevant party, you just consent to when one needs to borrow some from another.

twisteriffic 3y ago

Digital ID is on of the constant boogeymen of the modern conspiracy grift industry. Right up there with WEF and vaccines.

zaphirplane 3y ago
There are the so called sovereign citizens, 5g and vaccine crowd. In fairness these government centralized identity systems are a big target with a massive radius and it’s almost certain to be hacked
- snowpid 3y ago
  how many times have Estonia been hacked?
  - iou 3y ago
    There was some writeup from a few years back https://e-estonia.com/estonian-e-state-has-experienced-several-hacking-incidents-as-of-late-what-are-the-lessons-learned/ https://e-estonia.com/estonian-e-state-has-experienced-sever... It’s not going into granularity you may want though.