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> add-ons such as the $2000 rustproofing I've only ever bought cars in UK and South Africa, and never once heard of a rust-proofing option. Must be hard work
by opyate 3y ago
> add-ons such as the $2000 rustproofing
I've only ever bought cars in UK and South Africa, and never once heard of a rust-proofing option.
Must be hard work living in a country where you're always the victim of someone's hustle.
- rasz 3y agoTruCoat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LLB9CGfLs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LLB9CGfLs
- djao 3y agoI've never bought cars in the UK, but as I understand it, the standard way to "buy" a car in the UK is not actually to buy one, but to lease it. Leasing is its own category of hustle, entirely different from purchasing.
- opyate 3y agoI want to look into leasing. We bought an EV with cash, and the range have almost halved since we bought it. With lease, I guess I get a fresh car (and battery) every few years. And insurance is included. What kind of hustle can I expect with leasing? (I'll do some research when the time comes for the next car, as we're currently a 4-person 1-car family.)
- djao 3y ago1. Leasing is like a car purchase but with mandatory financing where the true underlying interest rate can legally be obfuscated behind cryptic language that you can't understand. Quick -- is a "money factor" of 0.0074 an attractive interest rate? 2. Leasing is like a car purchase but with a mandatory trade-in (you are going to be trading back the car that you are leasing, at some point in the future when you return your lease). Unlike a normal trade-in, where you have your car as-is and you can ask around for its value, in a leasing situation you have to predict what the value of your car will be in five years. The dealers do this professionally. You do not. Guess who wins? 3. Leasing means it's not really your car. This is an issue most frequently for people who drive a large number of miles. Going over your mileage limit on a lease is very expensive. 4. If your circumstances change such that you need to exit your loan obligations by selling your car before fully paying off your contract, it's easier to sell your way out of a purchase / finance situation than a leasing situation. Ending your lease early is not an option, as car leases (unlike apartment leases) typically carry a heavy early cancellation penalty. 5. In places like the US, where leasing and purchasing are both possible, this enables a unique type of scam: a "sale" where the buyer thinks he's getting a purchase but the paperwork actually says it's a lease. So you're paying full price for the car and you don't get to keep the car in the end.
- opyate 3y agoThanks for the advice!
- thebruce87m 3y agoHow old is the car? Most EVs I’ve seen have an 8 year warranty on the battery.
- opyate 3y agoIt's a 2020 model, but I bought second-hand from an authorised dealer, and it was actually owned by the sales person. I'll ask about a warranty, thanks!
- fingerlocks 3y agoI live in the United States and never heard of a rust proofing option either, and I live in the wet PNW. It’s a big republic separated into 50 individual states. There’s a lot of variance; some places have hustle but most don’t.
- wlonkly 3y agoIt's not about wet, it's about salt. You're on the wrong coast to have to think about rustproofing. Rustproofing is less necessary on modern cars than it used to be, and dealer rustproofing is pretty much universally worse than third-party (RustCheck, Krown, Corrosion-Free, etc.) but if you drive on salty winter roads for 1/3 of the year it definitely helps things not rust out on you as soon as they would otherwise.
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- fingerlocks 3y agoThis is incorrect. Rust is a reaction of iron and oxygen. Salt accelerates the process because it is ionized, but not necessary. You can flash rust pure iron in seconds with distilled water. Furthermore, ice alone is basically inert at the timescales that we experience. It would take eons for pure ice to react enough for visible rust to form. Even if it was cold enough for salt water to freeze, the difference would be negligible because salt and water separate from each other as the water crystallizes into ice. Also, we salt the roads here. Our freeze/thaw cycle is more frequent allowing for rust reactions to occur throughout the season, whereas a colder climate will only see reactions in the spring. There is no shortage of rust here.
- opyate 3y agoYes, sorry - I was in a flippant mood and generalised a bit :)
- cafard 3y agoOnly the higher elevations in the PNW get snow, and I don't know how much salt the highway departments use. My wife said that when she moved from upstate New York to San Francisco, the first mechanic she took her car to asked whether she drove it to the beach a lot. He was not used to seeing the effects of road salt.