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I'm not seeking to defend Vultr here, but perhaps people need to think about this in a sensible manner. Given the way of today's internet, with GPT-bots crawli
by traceroute66 3y ago
I'm not seeking to defend Vultr here, but perhaps people need to think about this in a sensible manner.
Given the way of today's internet, with GPT-bots crawling your stuff without your permission to use in their services, and with search-engines crawling and generally providing means of content removal that have limited effect .... what else are Vultr supposed to do ?
If you are granting them permission to, for example, "display" your content. Then there's not much they can do if you cancel your Vultr account but your content remains part of the GPT training material ?
- citruscomputing 3y agoI run my private nextcloud server on vultr. Everything is behind a login wall. They absolutely do not have my permission to use my years of notes, legal documents, calendar information, and photos (most of which have never been posted publicly) in any way! > what else are Vultr supposed to do ? Continue providing the services they do, with reasonable terms, or die. No, you can't just up and take all my photos and sell them to some AI training dataset because you wanted more money. Sorry!
- neoecos 3y agoWhat are you planning to do? I'm in the same situation, but without accepting the terms i'm no even able to "delete" my server/account. (already backing up things to move away)
- mekster 3y agoMaybe it's time that basement servers should be the norm for self hosters. I bought a HardKermel x64 servers and happy that I have no ToS to worry about. I can send encrypted back ups to utilize any cloud out there without a concern. Could've tried Pi but some docker packages don't run on Arm.
- groestl 3y ago"commercialize the User Content in any way that Vultr deems appropriate" is not at all related to CYA wrt crawlers.