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Well, the "nice" side effect of robbing people of their dignity is that they will also treat institutions and others with the same lack of dignity, perpetuating

Well, the "nice" side effect of robbing people of their dignity is that they will also treat institutions and others with the same lack of dignity, perpetuating a vicious cycle. You don't want to be a part of American society when social trust hits 0 and a majority of people have nothing to lose, with how many guns are floating around.

forgetfreeman 3y ago
So...next week then?
- throwup238 3y ago
  No, sometime between the second Tuesday in November, 2024 and January 20, 2025.
  - rokkitmensch 3y ago
    Says everyone during every cycle.
    - forgetfreeman 3y ago
      You'd think that if you were maybe 12 years old. Screeching about the end times didn't feature prominently (read: at all) in election coverage during saner times. That said, given a prior attempt to literally overthrow the government I'd say the stakes are higher than usual this go around.
      - rokkitmensch 3y ago
        Ad hominems have no place here, and rather undermine your point. Everyone screeches about some variety of end times every cycle, be it guns or abortion.
        forgetfreeman 3y ago
        Good thing there is no ad hominem then. An individual who's sole experience with the presidential election cycle spans the last 12 years would correctly assume that the majority of people believe (with varying degrees of accuracy) that the fate of society writ large hangs in the balance. Rewind the clock a couple decades and nobody was shouting from the rooftops that the world was coming to an end when Reagan was elected (in this country anyway, his cowboy-ass demeanor scared the shit out of the soviets, with cause). Very little at all was said about Bush Sr's election. Same with Clinton. The muttering started in earnest after that, and has continued to get more shrill as both major political parties have opted to abandon the concept of actually governing (eg. let's get some shit done here) in favor of veering towards the fringiest ideology they can find that makes column inches.

forgetfreeman 3y ago

So...next week then?

throwup238 3y ago
No, sometime between the second Tuesday in November, 2024 and January 20, 2025.
- rokkitmensch 3y ago
  Says everyone during every cycle.
  - forgetfreeman 3y ago
    You'd think that if you were maybe 12 years old. Screeching about the end times didn't feature prominently (read: at all) in election coverage during saner times. That said, given a prior attempt to literally overthrow the government I'd say the stakes are higher than usual this go around.
    - rokkitmensch 3y ago
      Ad hominems have no place here, and rather undermine your point. Everyone screeches about some variety of end times every cycle, be it guns or abortion.
      - forgetfreeman 3y ago
        Good thing there is no ad hominem then. An individual who's sole experience with the presidential election cycle spans the last 12 years would correctly assume that the majority of people believe (with varying degrees of accuracy) that the fate of society writ large hangs in the balance. Rewind the clock a couple decades and nobody was shouting from the rooftops that the world was coming to an end when Reagan was elected (in this country anyway, his cowboy-ass demeanor scared the shit out of the soviets, with cause). Very little at all was said about Bush Sr's election. Same with Clinton. The muttering started in earnest after that, and has continued to get more shrill as both major political parties have opted to abandon the concept of actually governing (eg. let's get some shit done here) in favor of veering towards the fringiest ideology they can find that makes column inches.