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> during my year where I led the Google LM effort and I was one of the brain leads, you know, it became really clear why. At the time, there was a thing called
by NavinF 3y ago
> during my year where I led the Google LM effort and I was one of the brain leads, you know, it became really clear why. At the time, there was a thing called the Brain Credit Marketplace. Everyone's assigned a credit. So if you have a credit, you get to buy end chips according to supply and demand. So if you want to go do a giant job, you had to convince like 19 or 20 of your colleagues not to do work
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Can anyone confirm this? Surely you can just bill all the expenses to your project and get it signed off by someone instead of collecting credits from individuals, right?
- swyx 3y agoi mean, he was there, and seems to be p confident any google brainer knows it
- BurningFrog 3y agoIs it maybe because it was impossible to buy as many AI chips as you wanted?
- choppaface 3y agoThere are only so many TPUs available and they're kept at 100% utilization. Google has had complex "marketplaces" around company resources for years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6L-FlfeaI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6L-FlfeaI It's a cultural value, like playing board games.
- NavinF 3y agoMarketplaces for resources are great. I was questioning the use of per-person credits as opposed to per-project credits. The former seems ridiculous, especially if everyone gets the same amount
- choppaface 3y agoThe evidence indicates that the TPU marketplace caused a ton of friction and hampered Google Brain’s ability to innovate. They got merged with Deepmind after all. Google’s golden years / Bell Labs years came from plumbing ads monopoly proceeds into blue sky projects. Contrast with Bytedance / Tiktok, which ruthlessly out-competed Facebook etc in the marketplace for attention. Googlers don’t want to actually build a good product and compete for users, they just want what suffices to feed their personal nerdy interests.
- schainks 3y agoI think this googler-made meme answers your question: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6L-FlfeaI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6L-FlfeaI
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