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"Schools are spending way too much resources that they don't even have on iPads that will soon be obsolete." My God, the hubris. My fiancée works in education;

by 54mf 14y ago

"Schools are spending way too much resources that they don't even have on iPads that will soon be obsolete." My God, the hubris. My fiancée works in education; I can say with absolutely certainty that "root access" is the very last thing anyone in the education system gives a shit about. They want stability, security, and longevity. The original iPad is still going strong after 2 years; are there any Android tablets released in 2010 that aren't obsolete? Save the jabs for when after you've shipped on a tablet that can keep up.

sp332 14y ago
Who said anything about root access? No one is arguing that schools should use Ubuntu today instead of iPads. The whole point of the bug is that Ubuntu cannot compete with iPads, and this should be fixed.
- 54mf 14y ago
  The tablet they're targeting (re: http://jonathancarter.org/2012/05/10/edubuntu-preliminary-plans-for-12-10/ http://jonathancarter.org/2012/05/10/edubuntu-preliminary-pl...) is the ZaTab. From their site (http://zareason.com/shop/zatab.html http://zareason.com/shop/zatab.html): "The only tablet on the market that doesn't violate the GPL! Yay! (You get the source code with the machine, not months later, if at all.)" "Some manufacturers consider "root" to be a four-letter-word. We don't. The ZaTab is an open device. The bootloader is unlocked. Root access is available." A bit of a stretch, perhaps, but I think the point is still valid: anyone arguing Ubuntu is a better solution for educators than Apple is kidding themselves. From the other linked post: "Do the educators receive sufficient training on these tools? Who helps when things go wrong?" Are they seriously implying Ubuntu requires less training than an iOS product? I get that the bug is based on improving so they can compete with iPad, which is why I think calling the iPad "soon...obsolete" when they have nothing to offer that can compare is a little silly.
  - sp332 14y ago
    "Do the educators receive sufficient training on these tools? Who helps when things go wrong?" Are they seriously implying Ubuntu requires less training than an iOS product? Nope, it's just a rant against spending money on iPads. A few sentences later: The students are making the case that money would be better spent upgrading their current infrastructure, like upgrading all their machines to Windows 7 and deprecating all the old hardware that can’t run it. I agree with them, it would indeed be an improvement on buying a bunch if iPads, and that investment is likely to also last a lot longer than the iPads will.

by 54mf 14y ago

sp332 14y ago

Who said anything about root access? No one is arguing that schools should use Ubuntu today instead of iPads. The whole point of the bug is that Ubuntu cannot compete with iPads, and this should be fixed.

54mf 14y ago
The tablet they're targeting (re: http://jonathancarter.org/2012/05/10/edubuntu-preliminary-plans-for-12-10/ http://jonathancarter.org/2012/05/10/edubuntu-preliminary-pl...) is the ZaTab. From their site (http://zareason.com/shop/zatab.html http://zareason.com/shop/zatab.html): "The only tablet on the market that doesn't violate the GPL! Yay! (You get the source code with the machine, not months later, if at all.)" "Some manufacturers consider "root" to be a four-letter-word. We don't. The ZaTab is an open device. The bootloader is unlocked. Root access is available." A bit of a stretch, perhaps, but I think the point is still valid: anyone arguing Ubuntu is a better solution for educators than Apple is kidding themselves. From the other linked post: "Do the educators receive sufficient training on these tools? Who helps when things go wrong?" Are they seriously implying Ubuntu requires less training than an iOS product? I get that the bug is based on improving so they can compete with iPad, which is why I think calling the iPad "soon...obsolete" when they have nothing to offer that can compare is a little silly.
- sp332 14y ago
  "Do the educators receive sufficient training on these tools? Who helps when things go wrong?" Are they seriously implying Ubuntu requires less training than an iOS product? Nope, it's just a rant against spending money on iPads. A few sentences later: The students are making the case that money would be better spent upgrading their current infrastructure, like upgrading all their machines to Windows 7 and deprecating all the old hardware that can’t run it. I agree with them, it would indeed be an improvement on buying a bunch if iPads, and that investment is likely to also last a lot longer than the iPads will.