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I don't see anyone commenting on a specific part of the article where basic it implies that white-supremacy groups are basically flying under the FBI radar. Is

by ttt_ 14y ago

I don't see anyone commenting on a specific part of the article where basic it implies that white-supremacy groups are basically flying under the FBI radar. Isn't that quite the bothersome perspective? It's to me in the same level of awe as the part of hand-leading people into terrorist acts. Probably even related, as a police state can make use of home-grown hooligans that are just waiting for the oportunity to put their 'peers' in line through violence. How much further along is there before the US turns into a full-blown totalitarian regime? This all seems eerily in line with this bleak proposal: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/ten-steps-to-close-down-a_b_46695.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/ten-steps-to-close-... (2007)

georgieporgie 14y ago
I wonder if it's the result of the embarrassment that came out of Ruby Ridge? Also, I imagine that there's a certain element of control, predictability, and cowardice: as an undercover cop or informant, I'm going to feel a lot more comfortable 'infiltrating' a protest movement than I am going into a somewhat isolated, armed, and organized group.
evgen 14y ago
Except for the fact that the bulk of the arrests on terrorism-related charges in the past year have been white supremacists and "militiamen" who share your apparent fantasies regarding an oncoming fascist state I guess you would have a point...
- brown9-2 14y ago
  Do you have a source for this claim? I'd like to read more about this.
  - dalke 14y ago
    Your phrase "source for this claim" implies to me that you didn't read the Rolling Stone article under discussion. It is a "source for this claim." Quoting from the article: "But don't worry your pretty little heads over the epidemic of far-right insurrectionism that followed the election of Barack Obama: all told, according to a forthcoming data analysis by Neiwert, there have been 55 cases of right-wing extremists being arrested for plotting or committing alleged terrorists acts compared to 26 by Islamic militants during the same period. The right-wing plots include the bombing of a 2011 Martin Luther King Day parade in Spokane and the assassination of abortion doctor George Tiller in 2009." It links to http://www.csgv.org/issues-and-campaigns/guns-democracy-and-freedom/insurrection-timeline http://www.csgv.org/issues-and-campaigns/guns-democracy-and-... which includes a list of "incidents of insurrectionist violence". It also links to a book, "Over the Cliff: How Obama's Election Drove the American Right Insane" by the aforementioned Neiwert.

by ttt_ 14y ago

georgieporgie 14y ago

I wonder if it's the result of the embarrassment that came out of Ruby Ridge? Also, I imagine that there's a certain element of control, predictability, and cowardice: as an undercover cop or informant, I'm going to feel a lot more comfortable 'infiltrating' a protest movement than I am going into a somewhat isolated, armed, and organized group.

evgen 14y ago

Except for the fact that the bulk of the arrests on terrorism-related charges in the past year have been white supremacists and "militiamen" who share your apparent fantasies regarding an oncoming fascist state I guess you would have a point...

brown9-2 14y ago
Do you have a source for this claim? I'd like to read more about this.
- dalke 14y ago
  Your phrase "source for this claim" implies to me that you didn't read the Rolling Stone article under discussion. It is a "source for this claim." Quoting from the article: "But don't worry your pretty little heads over the epidemic of far-right insurrectionism that followed the election of Barack Obama: all told, according to a forthcoming data analysis by Neiwert, there have been 55 cases of right-wing extremists being arrested for plotting or committing alleged terrorists acts compared to 26 by Islamic militants during the same period. The right-wing plots include the bombing of a 2011 Martin Luther King Day parade in Spokane and the assassination of abortion doctor George Tiller in 2009." It links to http://www.csgv.org/issues-and-campaigns/guns-democracy-and-freedom/insurrection-timeline http://www.csgv.org/issues-and-campaigns/guns-democracy-and-... which includes a list of "incidents of insurrectionist violence". It also links to a book, "Over the Cliff: How Obama's Election Drove the American Right Insane" by the aforementioned Neiwert.