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Scientists do not "need experimentation to come up with anything new". The scientific method is explicitly starting with a hypothesis (i.e. something new), then
by unclebucknasty 3y ago
Scientists do not "need experimentation to come up with anything new". The scientific method is explicitly starting with a hypothesis (i.e. something new), then experimenting to validate that hypothesis.
Are these hypotheses frequently based on prior observations? Of course.
But, reason is still being applied, so I don't know what you're trying to differentiate. You say alphago discovered move 37 from its self-play experience, but that explicitly has nothing to do with the environment. It's the equivalent of a human thinking through various scenarios (without experimentation or interacting with the environment) to come to a new conclusion. The environment is not required for that, which completely argues against what you seem to be saying.
BTW, I have not made any statements about AI and reasoning, other than LLMs. AlphaGo, of course, is not LLM-based.
Of course we don't all live in individual voids, so much of what we are concerned about are functions of our environments and will be expressed as such. I don't think there's anything groundbreaking in observing that a lot of our reasoning is applied to solving problems that have some intersection with our shared reality.
- visarga 3y agoThe go board and the opposing player are an environment. > then experimenting to validate that hypothesis. Proves my point that scientists can't secrete science from their pure brains, the environment is our teacher. We are just prying at its secrets with our limited brains, and usually need many of us to tackle one field, a distributed search for discoveries. None of us is smart enough to get even to Newtonian physics from scratch, we need to stand on the shoulders of previous generations to get anywhere. We're not smart enough to do it without the environment or without a large number of people working together.