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> I find this an interesting development, to be honest. People were outraged over Redis going "free unless you're a business", A central reason was that the SS

> I find this an interesting development, to be honest. People were outraged over Redis going "free unless you're a business", A central reason was that the SSPL (license) is not an open source license (as defined by the OSI: https://opensource.org/osd https://opensource.org/osd ). See https://opensource.org/blog/the-sspl-is-not-an-open-source-license https://opensource.org/blog/the-sspl-is-not-an-open-source-l... for details. This means that Redis switched away from being open source.

dartos 3y ago
You can still fork from older commits. The state of open source is really unfair to maintainer. The more popular a project becomes, the most cost is involved in maintaining and supporting it, but all too often (like with redis, elastic search, and aseprite) there is 1 company or even just 1 person facing the brunt of the community and development burden. Building a community for your open source project is a whole job in and of itself. I love open source. I owe my career, hobby, and lifestyle to it, but the cracks are showing more and more. As a OSS community, we need to be more active in supporting the project we use for free otherwise what happened with redis is going to be the end state for many very popular OSS projects.
jeroenhd 3y ago
I meant "free" as in "beer". I am aware that SPSS isn't open source, but as usual, there's nothing stopping the last open source version from being forked and maintained. You need to go through the code and documentation and s/Redis/Libredis to avoid trademarking issues, but there's nothing stopping the industry from continuing open source development and maintenance. If the industry comes together, and Redis only sells limited copies, as I would expect from a previously free product, it will effectively look like Redis is a fork of its open source version, not the other way around. If the industry doesn't (because that would require time, money, and effort), I can't say I have much of a problem with the situation, because apparently people were using the Redis devs for free work and not much else.

dartos 3y ago

You can still fork from older commits. The state of open source is really unfair to maintainer. The more popular a project becomes, the most cost is involved in maintaining and supporting it, but all too often (like with redis, elastic search, and aseprite) there is 1 company or even just 1 person facing the brunt of the community and development burden. Building a community for your open source project is a whole job in and of itself. I love open source. I owe my career, hobby, and lifestyle to it, but the cracks are showing more and more. As a OSS community, we need to be more active in supporting the project we use for free otherwise what happened with redis is going to be the end state for many very popular OSS projects.

jeroenhd 3y ago

I meant "free" as in "beer". I am aware that SPSS isn't open source, but as usual, there's nothing stopping the last open source version from being forked and maintained. You need to go through the code and documentation and s/Redis/Libredis to avoid trademarking issues, but there's nothing stopping the industry from continuing open source development and maintenance. If the industry comes together, and Redis only sells limited copies, as I would expect from a previously free product, it will effectively look like Redis is a fork of its open source version, not the other way around. If the industry doesn't (because that would require time, money, and effort), I can't say I have much of a problem with the situation, because apparently people were using the Redis devs for free work and not much else.