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100% this. There is absolutely 0 reason to use Affinity of Adobe besides pricing model. They can play around with the numbers and try to have a cheaper subscri

100% this. There is absolutely 0 reason to use Affinity of Adobe besides pricing model. They can play around with the numbers and try to have a cheaper subscription than Adobe, or maybe bundle it with the other software Canva offers, but ultimately I think switching to a subscription model will be the end of the Affinity software suite.

omnimus 3y ago
Have you tried Affinity? The software itself is a lot better than Adobe in many fundamentals. It’s faster, crashes less, supports a lot more file formats, connection between the individual programs is perfect, they add new quite innovative features at constant pace. Adobe is pretty much legacy software that gets close to zero development, its ridden with bugs that will be never fixed. The reason why everyone hates them is that last non subscription version Adobe CS6 from more than 10 years ago is pretty much the same thing what you get now even though users have been screaming for features and bugfixes. Adobe can have their cake and eat it too.
- adithyassekhar 3y ago
  The only reason I don't use CS6 is because it doesn't work properly with hidpi displays. It doesn't scale well above 100%.
- vetinari 3y ago
  Affinity (Photo) still doesn't support tablets properly. You can play around with parameters affected by pressure and tilt, but here Adobe (and Krita) are ahead.
- pier25 3y ago
  > The software itself is a lot better than Adobe in many fundamentals. It’s faster, crashes less, supports a lot more file formats, connection between the individual programs is perfect, they add new quite innovative features at constant pace. I disagree with all your points. I've been using Adobe for 20 years and Affinity Design and Photo since they released in 2013 or so. Adobe apps are faster on Apple Silicon than Affinity. I haven't experienced a crash in years with Adobe and I have experienced crashes with Affinity quite recently. Adobe has complete integration between programs. Eg: You can use AE timelines into Premiere, import Photoshop files into AE, edit vector objects from Photoshop in Illustrator, etc. Affinity innovation pace is just glacial. V2 introduced some new features but it Serif what... like 10 years? And personally I didn't see any value in the new features. Design is still missing a lot from Illustrator.
  - mandmandam 3y ago
    > I haven't experienced a crash in years with Adobe Haha wow. I find this incredibly hard to believe (also Apple Silicon). You ought to play the Lotto. > Design is still missing a lot from Illustrator. "A lot" is drastically overstating the case. And in many ways Designer is leagues better. But it's all kinda moot - fuck Adobe. Fuck their dark patterns, fuck their bugs, fuck their pricing, fuck their monopoly.
    - pier25 3y ago
      > * I find this incredibly hard to believe (also Apple Silicon).* Believe what you will. Their software used to crash a lot more for me 5-10 years ago but these days it's pretty solid in this regard. It used to feel super bloated too but since Apple Silicon it's been working great in terms of perf for me. > And in many ways Designer is leagues better. In what ways? Genuinely interested. I've been using vector graphics software since Corel Draw 4 and Illustrator still seems the gold standard. Figma is great for UI design but it's useless for anything else. I do think Photo is a lot more usable than Designer and I could see myself using that instead of Photoshop. > fuck Adobe. Fuck their dark patterns, fuck their bugs, fuck their pricing, fuck their monopoly Trust me, I too wish there was a good alternative to Adobe. I hope with Canva's money they will be able to improve Affinity's products.
      - mandmandam 3y ago
        > In what ways? Off the top of my head... Look and feel is a big one. It feels more responsive, and far less bloated. The Export Persona smokes Illustrator's slices or whatever. It handles symbols far more smoothly, and I like the way masks work better. It's better integrated into Publisher, compared to Illustrator/InDesign. Publisher is awesome, and basically has Designer built in. Working with non-square grids is sooooo much easier. There's no Creative Cloud malware fouling up my computer, soaking up CPU and memory and storage and spitting pop-ups in my face for no damn reason. ... There are things I miss - vector brushes, and the Transformation tools. But they can usually be worked around. The feeling of being respected by the company more than makes up for those deficits though. ...Which is probably about to change :(
- buzzerbetrayed 3y ago
  > Have you tried Affinity Yes. I owned CS6, then switched to Affinity essentially right when it was released. Been using it ever since. Great software. But very much lacking compared to Adobe.

omnimus 3y ago

Have you tried Affinity? The software itself is a lot better than Adobe in many fundamentals. It’s faster, crashes less, supports a lot more file formats, connection between the individual programs is perfect, they add new quite innovative features at constant pace. Adobe is pretty much legacy software that gets close to zero development, its ridden with bugs that will be never fixed. The reason why everyone hates them is that last non subscription version Adobe CS6 from more than 10 years ago is pretty much the same thing what you get now even though users have been screaming for features and bugfixes. Adobe can have their cake and eat it too.

adithyassekhar 3y ago
The only reason I don't use CS6 is because it doesn't work properly with hidpi displays. It doesn't scale well above 100%.
vetinari 3y ago
Affinity (Photo) still doesn't support tablets properly. You can play around with parameters affected by pressure and tilt, but here Adobe (and Krita) are ahead.
pier25 3y ago
> The software itself is a lot better than Adobe in many fundamentals. It’s faster, crashes less, supports a lot more file formats, connection between the individual programs is perfect, they add new quite innovative features at constant pace. I disagree with all your points. I've been using Adobe for 20 years and Affinity Design and Photo since they released in 2013 or so. Adobe apps are faster on Apple Silicon than Affinity. I haven't experienced a crash in years with Adobe and I have experienced crashes with Affinity quite recently. Adobe has complete integration between programs. Eg: You can use AE timelines into Premiere, import Photoshop files into AE, edit vector objects from Photoshop in Illustrator, etc. Affinity innovation pace is just glacial. V2 introduced some new features but it Serif what... like 10 years? And personally I didn't see any value in the new features. Design is still missing a lot from Illustrator.
- mandmandam 3y ago
  > I haven't experienced a crash in years with Adobe Haha wow. I find this incredibly hard to believe (also Apple Silicon). You ought to play the Lotto. > Design is still missing a lot from Illustrator. "A lot" is drastically overstating the case. And in many ways Designer is leagues better. But it's all kinda moot - fuck Adobe. Fuck their dark patterns, fuck their bugs, fuck their pricing, fuck their monopoly.
  - pier25 3y ago
    > * I find this incredibly hard to believe (also Apple Silicon).* Believe what you will. Their software used to crash a lot more for me 5-10 years ago but these days it's pretty solid in this regard. It used to feel super bloated too but since Apple Silicon it's been working great in terms of perf for me. > And in many ways Designer is leagues better. In what ways? Genuinely interested. I've been using vector graphics software since Corel Draw 4 and Illustrator still seems the gold standard. Figma is great for UI design but it's useless for anything else. I do think Photo is a lot more usable than Designer and I could see myself using that instead of Photoshop. > fuck Adobe. Fuck their dark patterns, fuck their bugs, fuck their pricing, fuck their monopoly Trust me, I too wish there was a good alternative to Adobe. I hope with Canva's money they will be able to improve Affinity's products.
    - mandmandam 3y ago
      > In what ways? Off the top of my head... Look and feel is a big one. It feels more responsive, and far less bloated. The Export Persona smokes Illustrator's slices or whatever. It handles symbols far more smoothly, and I like the way masks work better. It's better integrated into Publisher, compared to Illustrator/InDesign. Publisher is awesome, and basically has Designer built in. Working with non-square grids is sooooo much easier. There's no Creative Cloud malware fouling up my computer, soaking up CPU and memory and storage and spitting pop-ups in my face for no damn reason. ... There are things I miss - vector brushes, and the Transformation tools. But they can usually be worked around. The feeling of being respected by the company more than makes up for those deficits though. ...Which is probably about to change :(
buzzerbetrayed 3y ago
> Have you tried Affinity Yes. I owned CS6, then switched to Affinity essentially right when it was released. Been using it ever since. Great software. But very much lacking compared to Adobe.