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The only reason people get Affinity is because of the non subscription model. Adobe software is just better.

by pier25 3y ago

buzzerbetrayed 3y ago
100% this. There is absolutely 0 reason to use Affinity of Adobe besides pricing model. They can play around with the numbers and try to have a cheaper subscription than Adobe, or maybe bundle it with the other software Canva offers, but ultimately I think switching to a subscription model will be the end of the Affinity software suite.
- omnimus 3y ago
  Have you tried Affinity? The software itself is a lot better than Adobe in many fundamentals. It’s faster, crashes less, supports a lot more file formats, connection between the individual programs is perfect, they add new quite innovative features at constant pace. Adobe is pretty much legacy software that gets close to zero development, its ridden with bugs that will be never fixed. The reason why everyone hates them is that last non subscription version Adobe CS6 from more than 10 years ago is pretty much the same thing what you get now even though users have been screaming for features and bugfixes. Adobe can have their cake and eat it too.
  - adithyassekhar 3y ago
    The only reason I don't use CS6 is because it doesn't work properly with hidpi displays. It doesn't scale well above 100%.
  - vetinari 3y ago
    Affinity (Photo) still doesn't support tablets properly. You can play around with parameters affected by pressure and tilt, but here Adobe (and Krita) are ahead.
  - pier25 3y ago
    > The software itself is a lot better than Adobe in many fundamentals. It’s faster, crashes less, supports a lot more file formats, connection between the individual programs is perfect, they add new quite innovative features at constant pace. I disagree with all your points. I've been using Adobe for 20 years and Affinity Design and Photo since they released in 2013 or so. Adobe apps are faster on Apple Silicon than Affinity. I haven't experienced a crash in years with Adobe and I have experienced crashes with Affinity quite recently. Adobe has complete integration between programs. Eg: You can use AE timelines into Premiere, import Photoshop files into AE, edit vector objects from Photoshop in Illustrator, etc. Affinity innovation pace is just glacial. V2 introduced some new features but it Serif what... like 10 years? And personally I didn't see any value in the new features. Design is still missing a lot from Illustrator.
    - mandmandam 3y ago
      > I haven't experienced a crash in years with Adobe Haha wow. I find this incredibly hard to believe (also Apple Silicon). You ought to play the Lotto. > Design is still missing a lot from Illustrator. "A lot" is drastically overstating the case. And in many ways Designer is leagues better. But it's all kinda moot - fuck Adobe. Fuck their dark patterns, fuck their bugs, fuck their pricing, fuck their monopoly.
      - pier25 3y ago
        > * I find this incredibly hard to believe (also Apple Silicon).* Believe what you will. Their software used to crash a lot more for me 5-10 years ago but these days it's pretty solid in this regard. It used to feel super bloated too but since Apple Silicon it's been working great in terms of perf for me. > And in many ways Designer is leagues better. In what ways? Genuinely interested. I've been using vector graphics software since Corel Draw 4 and Illustrator still seems the gold standard. Figma is great for UI design but it's useless for anything else. I do think Photo is a lot more usable than Designer and I could see myself using that instead of Photoshop. > fuck Adobe. Fuck their dark patterns, fuck their bugs, fuck their pricing, fuck their monopoly Trust me, I too wish there was a good alternative to Adobe. I hope with Canva's money they will be able to improve Affinity's products.
  - buzzerbetrayed 3y ago
    > Have you tried Affinity Yes. I owned CS6, then switched to Affinity essentially right when it was released. Been using it ever since. Great software. But very much lacking compared to Adobe.
t-writescode 3y ago
That's not true at all. There's also the strong dislike of Adobe as a company.
- throwaway2990 3y ago
  Due to subscriptions.
  - timeon 3y ago
    And bloatware. Affinity runs smoother on Mac.
    - throwaway2990 3y ago
      This is true. I bought it because photoshop kept crashing on Mac. And I got tired of watching filters take effect in Lightroom.
      - aikinai 3y ago
        I switched to Capture One years ago, but recently switched back to Lightroom. It’s much much faster now and they also recently launched advanced color editing, AI masks, and true HDR support which pushed me over the edge.
    - robertoandred 3y ago
      Eh, they take like 30 seconds just to open the app.
    - pier25 3y ago
      This used to be the case but in my experience Adobe runs better in Apple Silicon than Affinity does.
ReleaseCandidat 3y ago
I also try to avoid the two big "A"s, Autodesk and Adobe.
Toutouxc 3y ago
I paid $lot for the entire Affinity suite and DxO Photolab instead of going with the (quite good) Adobe offerings just to avoid the insanity that is the Adobe Creative Cloud launcher. I deeply hate apps that install, auto-run and auto-update other apps. Affinity and DxO give you a DMG.
- pier25 3y ago
  I agree about Creative Cloud. I too hate it with a passion. But when I said "Adobe is better" I was referring to the apps themselves.
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bayindirh 3y ago
> Adobe software is just better. I won't be installing that invasive spyware suite to my system even if they pay me monthly to use the software. It's that bad.
browningstreet 3y ago
But the subscription based company was the one to buy the non-subscription company. Because they generate the funds to do so.
srvmshr 3y ago
I keep Adobe products only on iPad or iPhone, where the app seems sandboxed. In Mac/Windows, Adobe CC (or any product line FWIW) spawns files and folders like cancer in /Library or /System. It's just hallmark bad software engineering.

The only reason people get Affinity is because of the non subscription model. Adobe software is just better.

by pier25 3y ago

The only reason people get Affinity is because of the non subscription model. Adobe software is just better.

100% this. There is absolutely 0 reason to use Affinity of Adobe besides pricing model. They can play around with the numbers and try to have a cheaper subscription than Adobe, or maybe bundle it with the other software Canva offers, but ultimately I think switching to a subscription model will be the end of the Affinity software suite.

omnimus 3y ago
Have you tried Affinity? The software itself is a lot better than Adobe in many fundamentals. It’s faster, crashes less, supports a lot more file formats, connection between the individual programs is perfect, they add new quite innovative features at constant pace. Adobe is pretty much legacy software that gets close to zero development, its ridden with bugs that will be never fixed. The reason why everyone hates them is that last non subscription version Adobe CS6 from more than 10 years ago is pretty much the same thing what you get now even though users have been screaming for features and bugfixes. Adobe can have their cake and eat it too.
- adithyassekhar 3y ago
  The only reason I don't use CS6 is because it doesn't work properly with hidpi displays. It doesn't scale well above 100%.
- vetinari 3y ago
  Affinity (Photo) still doesn't support tablets properly. You can play around with parameters affected by pressure and tilt, but here Adobe (and Krita) are ahead.
- pier25 3y ago
  > The software itself is a lot better than Adobe in many fundamentals. It’s faster, crashes less, supports a lot more file formats, connection between the individual programs is perfect, they add new quite innovative features at constant pace. I disagree with all your points. I've been using Adobe for 20 years and Affinity Design and Photo since they released in 2013 or so. Adobe apps are faster on Apple Silicon than Affinity. I haven't experienced a crash in years with Adobe and I have experienced crashes with Affinity quite recently. Adobe has complete integration between programs. Eg: You can use AE timelines into Premiere, import Photoshop files into AE, edit vector objects from Photoshop in Illustrator, etc. Affinity innovation pace is just glacial. V2 introduced some new features but it Serif what... like 10 years? And personally I didn't see any value in the new features. Design is still missing a lot from Illustrator.
  - mandmandam 3y ago
    > I haven't experienced a crash in years with Adobe Haha wow. I find this incredibly hard to believe (also Apple Silicon). You ought to play the Lotto. > Design is still missing a lot from Illustrator. "A lot" is drastically overstating the case. And in many ways Designer is leagues better. But it's all kinda moot - fuck Adobe. Fuck their dark patterns, fuck their bugs, fuck their pricing, fuck their monopoly.
    - pier25 3y ago
      > * I find this incredibly hard to believe (also Apple Silicon).* Believe what you will. Their software used to crash a lot more for me 5-10 years ago but these days it's pretty solid in this regard. It used to feel super bloated too but since Apple Silicon it's been working great in terms of perf for me. > And in many ways Designer is leagues better. In what ways? Genuinely interested. I've been using vector graphics software since Corel Draw 4 and Illustrator still seems the gold standard. Figma is great for UI design but it's useless for anything else. I do think Photo is a lot more usable than Designer and I could see myself using that instead of Photoshop. > fuck Adobe. Fuck their dark patterns, fuck their bugs, fuck their pricing, fuck their monopoly Trust me, I too wish there was a good alternative to Adobe. I hope with Canva's money they will be able to improve Affinity's products.
- buzzerbetrayed 3y ago
  > Have you tried Affinity Yes. I owned CS6, then switched to Affinity essentially right when it was released. Been using it ever since. Great software. But very much lacking compared to Adobe.

t-writescode 3y ago

That's not true at all. There's also the strong dislike of Adobe as a company.

throwaway2990 3y ago
Due to subscriptions.
- timeon 3y ago
  And bloatware. Affinity runs smoother on Mac.
  - throwaway2990 3y ago
    This is true. I bought it because photoshop kept crashing on Mac. And I got tired of watching filters take effect in Lightroom.
    - aikinai 3y ago
      I switched to Capture One years ago, but recently switched back to Lightroom. It’s much much faster now and they also recently launched advanced color editing, AI masks, and true HDR support which pushed me over the edge.
  - robertoandred 3y ago
    Eh, they take like 30 seconds just to open the app.
  - pier25 3y ago
    This used to be the case but in my experience Adobe runs better in Apple Silicon than Affinity does.

ReleaseCandidat 3y ago

I also try to avoid the two big "A"s, Autodesk and Adobe.

Toutouxc 3y ago

I paid $lot for the entire Affinity suite and DxO Photolab instead of going with the (quite good) Adobe offerings just to avoid the insanity that is the Adobe Creative Cloud launcher. I deeply hate apps that install, auto-run and auto-update other apps. Affinity and DxO give you a DMG.

pier25 3y ago
I agree about Creative Cloud. I too hate it with a passion. But when I said "Adobe is better" I was referring to the apps themselves.
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bayindirh 3y ago

> Adobe software is just better. I won't be installing that invasive spyware suite to my system even if they pay me monthly to use the software. It's that bad.

browningstreet 3y ago

But the subscription based company was the one to buy the non-subscription company. Because they generate the funds to do so.

srvmshr 3y ago

I keep Adobe products only on iPad or iPhone, where the app seems sandboxed. In Mac/Windows, Adobe CC (or any product line FWIW) spawns files and folders like cancer in /Library or /System. It's just hallmark bad software engineering.