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The link should probably be changed to official announcement.[1] That said, this is pretty dismaying. I've been using Affinity Designer and Affinity Photo for

The link should probably be changed to official announcement.[1] That said, this is pretty dismaying. I've been using Affinity Designer and Affinity Photo for years. Their standalone and non-subscription based apps are perfect for my usecase. Compared to Adobe, they are a no-brainer. But, I don't think Canva would leave them be as is. Either next versions will be a subscription or a rug pull is coming for the existing version. [1]: https://www.canva.com/newsroom/news/affinity/ https://www.canva.com/newsroom/news/affinity/

achow 3y ago
Also, this maybe distracting for either parties - Affinity team (if they are pressured to go beyond professional designers or change to subscription, go to cloud, web etc.) - Canva. Professional/enterprise is a very different ball game than the consumer market that they were focussing on. Ex. their mobile app for consumer itself is kind of broken, whereas mobile first experience is very important for the demography that they are targeting.
- lstamour 3y ago
  Canva slowly built out enterprise features, but it’s not fully there yet. They seem to be aiming for what Sketch was aiming for before Figma overtook it - the ability for teams to publish and use design systems and templates in Canva. Which is a cool niche to start with, but isn’t flexible enough. Plus Canva doesn’t really have the concept of “local files” so they’re stuck until they evolve to include every feature of Google Drive, at minimum, including local file sync. Canva ignoring traditional apps is like Chrome pretending the OS doesn’t exist and then building ChromeOS. Some concepts are necessary complexity, particularly for power users. Canva is a bit too simple still, and thus frustrating.
gardaani 3y ago
Here's Serif/Affinity announcements: https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/press/newsroom/canva-press-release/ https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/press/newsroom/canva-press-... https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/press/newsroom/canva-statement/ https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/press/newsroom/canva-statem... And here's few Affinity forum threads about the topic: - https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/201405-questions-on-canva-acquiring-affinity/ https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/201405-que... - https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/201403-canva/ https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/201403-can...
dean2432 3y ago
of course. big corporations only think about profit. affinity as we know it are dead.
- eviks 3y ago
  Unlike small corporations who only think about selling themselves out to the big ones
  - coldtea 3y ago
    There are small or comparatively small corporations who proudly and decidedly stay small, and even refuse to sell. https://cdm.link/2021/11/ableton-reportedly-refused-investment-interest-from-diplo-scooter-braun-and-joshua-kushner/ https://cdm.link/2021/11/ableton-reportedly-refused-investme...
- melodyogonna 3y ago
  Is there a company that doesn't think about profit?
  - objektif 3y ago
    Only is the keyword here.
  - coldtea 3y ago
    Primarily? Yes. But there are even companies that rather lose money than compromise on some product or other principles. Mind you, those are privately owned. Boards and shareholders fuck everything they touch.
- adamnemecek 3y ago
  If they want to compete with adobe the have to put in some work
tempodox 3y ago
“Compete with Adobe” presumably means they will enshitten Affinity software even worse than Adobe did theirs. Looking forward to subscription-based ad-infested nagware.
upsuper 3y ago
Canva and Affinity just released another news [1] which makes the pledge that > We know this model has been a key part of the Affinity offering and we are committed to continue to offer perpetual licenses in the future. If we do offer a subscription, it will only ever be as an option alongside the perpetual model, for those who prefer it. [1]: https://www.canva.com/newsroom/news/affinity-canva-pledge/ https://www.canva.com/newsroom/news/affinity-canva-pledge/
- musicale 3y ago
  Guess we'll see how well this ages.
  - musicale 3y ago
    Companies always keep promises like this, so I'm sure we have nothing to worry about.

achow 3y ago

Also, this maybe distracting for either parties - Affinity team (if they are pressured to go beyond professional designers or change to subscription, go to cloud, web etc.) - Canva. Professional/enterprise is a very different ball game than the consumer market that they were focussing on. Ex. their mobile app for consumer itself is kind of broken, whereas mobile first experience is very important for the demography that they are targeting.

lstamour 3y ago
Canva slowly built out enterprise features, but it’s not fully there yet. They seem to be aiming for what Sketch was aiming for before Figma overtook it - the ability for teams to publish and use design systems and templates in Canva. Which is a cool niche to start with, but isn’t flexible enough. Plus Canva doesn’t really have the concept of “local files” so they’re stuck until they evolve to include every feature of Google Drive, at minimum, including local file sync. Canva ignoring traditional apps is like Chrome pretending the OS doesn’t exist and then building ChromeOS. Some concepts are necessary complexity, particularly for power users. Canva is a bit too simple still, and thus frustrating.

gardaani 3y ago

Here's Serif/Affinity announcements: https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/press/newsroom/canva-press-release/ https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/press/newsroom/canva-press-... https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/press/newsroom/canva-statement/ https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/press/newsroom/canva-statem... And here's few Affinity forum threads about the topic: - https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/201405-questions-on-canva-acquiring-affinity/ https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/201405-que... - https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/201403-canva/ https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/201403-can...

dean2432 3y ago

of course. big corporations only think about profit. affinity as we know it are dead.

eviks 3y ago
Unlike small corporations who only think about selling themselves out to the big ones
- coldtea 3y ago
  There are small or comparatively small corporations who proudly and decidedly stay small, and even refuse to sell. https://cdm.link/2021/11/ableton-reportedly-refused-investment-interest-from-diplo-scooter-braun-and-joshua-kushner/ https://cdm.link/2021/11/ableton-reportedly-refused-investme...
melodyogonna 3y ago
Is there a company that doesn't think about profit?
- objektif 3y ago
  Only is the keyword here.
- coldtea 3y ago
  Primarily? Yes. But there are even companies that rather lose money than compromise on some product or other principles. Mind you, those are privately owned. Boards and shareholders fuck everything they touch.
adamnemecek 3y ago
If they want to compete with adobe the have to put in some work

tempodox 3y ago

“Compete with Adobe” presumably means they will enshitten Affinity software even worse than Adobe did theirs. Looking forward to subscription-based ad-infested nagware.

upsuper 3y ago

Canva and Affinity just released another news [1] which makes the pledge that > We know this model has been a key part of the Affinity offering and we are committed to continue to offer perpetual licenses in the future. If we do offer a subscription, it will only ever be as an option alongside the perpetual model, for those who prefer it. [1]: https://www.canva.com/newsroom/news/affinity-canva-pledge/ https://www.canva.com/newsroom/news/affinity-canva-pledge/

musicale 3y ago
Guess we'll see how well this ages.
- musicale 3y ago
  Companies always keep promises like this, so I'm sure we have nothing to worry about.