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Theres a few differences between Intel and Google here. The first two points are from Peter Thiel: 1. Google really didn't know what to do with its excess mo
by rhelz 3y ago
Theres a few differences between Intel and Google here. The first two points are from Peter Thiel:
1. Google really didn't know what to do with its excess money, which was why it was just stockpiling it and not using it to invest in its own business.
Intel, by contrast, always knew (at least in the Noyce/Grove era) what to do with its money.
2. Google's "side projects" were false-flags and smokescreens to make it look like it wasn't a monopoly. (Thiel says it much better himself in his article and speech titled "competition is for losers"-highly recommended).
Intel did a similar thing around the turn of the century, when it started making ARM chips--not because they were the most profitable thing they could be doing but because they didn't want to look like a monopoly.
And, of course, you really hit the nail on the thumb here:
> Of course the founders have majority voting shares
Yeah. The executives of google and facebook just don't face the same accountability from the shareholders that the execs of any honestly-governed public company does.
Its a two-edged sword: if google or facebook needs to spend a lot of money to pivot, they have the flexibility to do that in a way which other companies don't. However, the flip side implication is that, e.g. Zuckerberg can just spend $10 billion on a huge project, without being at all held accountable if it fails.
- hnfong 3y agoRight, and the ironic thing is that the founder having majority voting shares was allegedly justified by the idea that it would solve the innovators dilemma by not having the founders ("proven" capable of building successful products) being accountable to the short-term whims of the shareholder. That said... my original point was that the shareholders don't sue in such situations. Rather, they just vote out the board (and hence CEO). If they could sue the board/CEO for not making as much profit as theoretically possible, they would have already sued Meta or Alphabet already despite having only minority shares. Proving to a court that the board/CEO isn't acting in the shareholder's best interest isn't as easy as comparing the projected returns of two mutually-exclusive deals -- they can argue that the ostensibly less profitable deal actually has great long term benefits.
- rhelz 3y ago> don't sue in such situations. Rather, they just vote out the board cf. with the shareholder suit against Tesla. Why did they sue instead of firing the board of directors? To vote out the board, you need >50% of the shareholders to back you. To sue the board, all you need is 1 disgruntled investor.