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>That sounds like empirical data on a subject where I have never heard of their being data c.f. https://userweb.cs.txstate.edu/~rp31/papers/KingHammondChapman
by NovemberWhiskey 3y ago
>That sounds like empirical data on a subject where I have never heard of their being data
c.f.
https://userweb.cs.txstate.edu/~rp31/papers/KingHammondChapmanPryor.pdf https://userweb.cs.txstate.edu/~rp31/papers/KingHammondChapm...
- pfdietz 3y agoFormal proof of correctness vs. manually created tests. The comparison should be formal proof of correctness vs. fuzzing using the formal specification as a source of properties to be tested.
- NovemberWhiskey 3y agoFuzzing is a statistical technique that isn't ever going to give you a reassurance that a problem doesn't exist. It's great at giving you counterexamples, so fuzzing is great for discovering vulnerabilities, but unless you're fuzzing your program's entire state-space (which is absolutely impossible for even relatively small programs) then you're not comparing like with like.
- pfdietz 3y agoSo? The paper compared formal techniques vs. testing. Why is that suddenly not appropriate if the testing is fuzzing?
- pydry 3y ago>Fuzzing is a statistical technique that isn't ever going to give you a reassurance that a problem doesn't exist. Formal verification doesn't prove that bugs don't exist either, thanks to the aforementioned "bugs in the spec" scenario.