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Honestly, hard disk space is cheap. The thing that bothers me is when e.g. Norton is naggy and pops up UIs to make me interact with it despite opting out over t

by gleenn 3y ago

Honestly, hard disk space is cheap. The thing that bothers me is when e.g. Norton is naggy and pops up UIs to make me interact with it despite opting out over time. Things like the Photos app sit there and occupy space but zero percent of my brain and perhaps some gigs of storage I personally am not missing.

concinds 3y ago
The Apple Music app makes my 32GB iPad unusable. It takes up 10GB of my 32GB, despite having 0 songs downloaded. I have no idea what takes up that space (album art alone can't account for 10GB). There's no option to clear that "Documents & Data" cache in the "iPad Storage" settings menu. Uninstalling the Music app does not remove this data. I could reset the iPad but I can't be bothered. I'm also stuck with Safari because I can't afford Chrome's 200MB, and with Mail because the Gmail app is 500MB.
- rmah 3y ago
  Something is very wrong with your iPad storage. My Apple Music (also mostly unused) takes up a grand total of 28 MB, of which 23.5 MB is the app.
talldayo 3y ago
> hard disk space is cheap Are we referring to the same Apple company right now?
willmadden 3y ago
>Honestly, hard disk space is cheap. Not on Apple's laptops. They also markup hundreds of dollars for +8 GB of RAM, which probably costs them 10-20 USD.
madsbuch 3y ago
in my opinion it is about controlling "what you have in your fridge". if I want to loose weight but cannot remove the chocolate from my fridge I am at the mercy of my supplier of fridges. it is the same here. if I don't want to spend time on Facebook, gambling, etc. then I should be able to clear away these types of apps from my system.
- shuckles 3y ago
  It’s already possible to hide the Photos app from the system, so you are wrong on the facts. And the photos app is a lot more like the compressor in your fridge, not like the contents of it. But the point of reasoning by metaphor a lot of commenters on here employ is to obfuscate any assertions. So what do you think: should OS vendors not be allowed to supply default software beyond a kernel? The Settings app should also be customizable? And this is good for users how? Keeps them from getting fat?
  - madsbuch 3y ago
    > It’s already possible to hide the Photos app from the system. Like putting the chocolate underneath the broccolis in the vegetable container? You might argue that the photos app is required for normal functioning. And I would generally agree with you. However, you could use the same argument for a browser, but bundling Safari per default does not fly anymore. The time will show what we need to do. So far, IMHO, regulators are able to manage these nuances.

by gleenn 3y ago

concinds 3y ago

The Apple Music app makes my 32GB iPad unusable. It takes up 10GB of my 32GB, despite having 0 songs downloaded. I have no idea what takes up that space (album art alone can't account for 10GB). There's no option to clear that "Documents & Data" cache in the "iPad Storage" settings menu. Uninstalling the Music app does not remove this data. I could reset the iPad but I can't be bothered. I'm also stuck with Safari because I can't afford Chrome's 200MB, and with Mail because the Gmail app is 500MB.

rmah 3y ago
Something is very wrong with your iPad storage. My Apple Music (also mostly unused) takes up a grand total of 28 MB, of which 23.5 MB is the app.

talldayo 3y ago

> hard disk space is cheap Are we referring to the same Apple company right now?

willmadden 3y ago

>Honestly, hard disk space is cheap. Not on Apple's laptops. They also markup hundreds of dollars for +8 GB of RAM, which probably costs them 10-20 USD.

madsbuch 3y ago

in my opinion it is about controlling "what you have in your fridge". if I want to loose weight but cannot remove the chocolate from my fridge I am at the mercy of my supplier of fridges. it is the same here. if I don't want to spend time on Facebook, gambling, etc. then I should be able to clear away these types of apps from my system.

shuckles 3y ago
It’s already possible to hide the Photos app from the system, so you are wrong on the facts. And the photos app is a lot more like the compressor in your fridge, not like the contents of it. But the point of reasoning by metaphor a lot of commenters on here employ is to obfuscate any assertions. So what do you think: should OS vendors not be allowed to supply default software beyond a kernel? The Settings app should also be customizable? And this is good for users how? Keeps them from getting fat?
- madsbuch 3y ago
  > It’s already possible to hide the Photos app from the system. Like putting the chocolate underneath the broccolis in the vegetable container? You might argue that the photos app is required for normal functioning. And I would generally agree with you. However, you could use the same argument for a browser, but bundling Safari per default does not fly anymore. The time will show what we need to do. So far, IMHO, regulators are able to manage these nuances.