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The second time I took LSD, I had visions of rending flesh, falling endlessly into a vortex of gore. That was the mandala that time. This was mixed with dream

The second time I took LSD, I had visions of rending flesh, falling endlessly into a vortex of gore. That was the mandala that time. This was mixed with dreamscape fantasies of conquest and rape on grandiose scale, a Roman emperor, slicing down hordes, restructuring time in a slash of blood, a ball of divine destruction held in potential, ready to be unleashed at any time. It was sexually arousing. Some might rationalize this, as getting a better grip on one's Jungian shadow. I sometimes view the experience that way, but sometimes I wonder if it slightly loosened some important retaining bolt. I'm pretty sure negative vibes can come out of the Pandora's psychedelic box, too. Also, this variability in effect hinders using it therapeutically. It's hard to "guide" a trip, and no one really trips in the same way twice.

bongodongobob 3y ago
Was that a heroic dose? I've had some strong visuals, but I've never been blasted into full blown hallucinations on LSD.
- spoiler 3y ago
  Not op, but I've done heroic doses a few times (and lesser ones too). You don't need a heroic dose for ego death (but it probably helps). You could be listening to music in a dark room or with closed eyes, on a medium-high dose and you suddenly start disassociating. Also, you don't normally hallucinate in the same way media portrays it (there are drugs that make you hallucinate though) AFAIK (none of my friends or I hallucinated on psilocybin/LSD; I wouldn't call DMT hallucinations either). Ego death trips are more conceptual than purely visual, but there's a strong visual aspect to it too.
  - robbiep 3y ago
    I had had 15-20 ‘normal’ trips and then one (probs around 250mcg, but during Covid when I was totally spent and my ‘intention’ was to let go and wash away the stresses) where I was just ‘not there’. I had some pretty intense/scary visuals/thoughts, but what was terrifying to my partner and friend there was I was bumping into walls and just muttering. I had a new respect for why they call it chemically induced schizophrenia, I was just not home for 2 hours. Afterwards it wasn’t the worst thing in the world, but I had a massive newfound respect and have been very cautious with tbe dose (and intention!) the few times subsequently
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    Are heroic doses supposed to do something special? LSD always feels the same to me, whether it's 100ug or 500ug. Higher doses just last longer, but aren't any more intense.
    - bongodongobob 3y ago
      If you're taking 500ug and it just seems longer, I would question if you're actually taking acid or the dosage. That's like 5ish+ hits my dude. Yes, it should be much more intense (and longer). However, you do need to take it all at once. If you wait a couple hours and re-dose, it does just make it last longer.
      - LoganDark 3y ago
        I'm certain it's LSD25 because if it were anything else (like NBOMe) I would have died by overdose by now. I'm aware the typical dose is 100μg. I've taken up to 600μg before (yes all at once), and it'll keep me wide awake for 24 hours straight but the actual trip itself won't be that much more intense. I'm autistic and have ADHD so it might affect me differently than the typical person. I don't necessarily like it that way (I would love one of the super-intense experiences that people tend to get really excited over) but so far I haven't been able to cause a particularly strong effect. Very curious why I'm either more resistant to it or more tolerant of it to the point of being underwhelmed. Don't get me wrong, it's still a very nice experience that I like to partake in every couple weeks. The first time I did LSD (100μg) I got HPPD for about a week, sometimes I wish it never went away. Being sober is so boring!
        bongodongobob 3y ago
        If you're getting it from the same source, you might want to test it. That doesn't sound right. It should be metabolized well before 24 hours. 6 hits of acid shouldn't last that long, and I'm not sure any dose can.
        LoganDark 3y ago
temp0826 3y ago
That's interesting (that you felt the disturbing images as arousing). I work at an ayahuasca center that works in a traditional lineage. One thing that often needs to be energetically cleaned from people is something we refer to as "lobo" ("wolf" in Spanish), or neino (Shipibo for river otter), both considered to be somewhat voracious animals. This is the spirit of unhealthy desires, often sexual in nature. It manifests in a variety of ways, often images of sea creatures. When it is most intense it appears as very bloody and gratuitous violence, bloody animal teeth etc.

bongodongobob 3y ago

Was that a heroic dose? I've had some strong visuals, but I've never been blasted into full blown hallucinations on LSD.

spoiler 3y ago
Not op, but I've done heroic doses a few times (and lesser ones too). You don't need a heroic dose for ego death (but it probably helps). You could be listening to music in a dark room or with closed eyes, on a medium-high dose and you suddenly start disassociating. Also, you don't normally hallucinate in the same way media portrays it (there are drugs that make you hallucinate though) AFAIK (none of my friends or I hallucinated on psilocybin/LSD; I wouldn't call DMT hallucinations either). Ego death trips are more conceptual than purely visual, but there's a strong visual aspect to it too.
- robbiep 3y ago
  I had had 15-20 ‘normal’ trips and then one (probs around 250mcg, but during Covid when I was totally spent and my ‘intention’ was to let go and wash away the stresses) where I was just ‘not there’. I had some pretty intense/scary visuals/thoughts, but what was terrifying to my partner and friend there was I was bumping into walls and just muttering. I had a new respect for why they call it chemically induced schizophrenia, I was just not home for 2 hours. Afterwards it wasn’t the worst thing in the world, but I had a massive newfound respect and have been very cautious with tbe dose (and intention!) the few times subsequently
- LoganDark 3y ago
  Are heroic doses supposed to do something special? LSD always feels the same to me, whether it's 100ug or 500ug. Higher doses just last longer, but aren't any more intense.
  - bongodongobob 3y ago
    If you're taking 500ug and it just seems longer, I would question if you're actually taking acid or the dosage. That's like 5ish+ hits my dude. Yes, it should be much more intense (and longer). However, you do need to take it all at once. If you wait a couple hours and re-dose, it does just make it last longer.
    - LoganDark 3y ago
      I'm certain it's LSD25 because if it were anything else (like NBOMe) I would have died by overdose by now. I'm aware the typical dose is 100μg. I've taken up to 600μg before (yes all at once), and it'll keep me wide awake for 24 hours straight but the actual trip itself won't be that much more intense. I'm autistic and have ADHD so it might affect me differently than the typical person. I don't necessarily like it that way (I would love one of the super-intense experiences that people tend to get really excited over) but so far I haven't been able to cause a particularly strong effect. Very curious why I'm either more resistant to it or more tolerant of it to the point of being underwhelmed. Don't get me wrong, it's still a very nice experience that I like to partake in every couple weeks. The first time I did LSD (100μg) I got HPPD for about a week, sometimes I wish it never went away. Being sober is so boring!
      - bongodongobob 3y ago
        If you're getting it from the same source, you might want to test it. That doesn't sound right. It should be metabolized well before 24 hours. 6 hits of acid shouldn't last that long, and I'm not sure any dose can.
        LoganDark 3y ago

temp0826 3y ago

That's interesting (that you felt the disturbing images as arousing). I work at an ayahuasca center that works in a traditional lineage. One thing that often needs to be energetically cleaned from people is something we refer to as "lobo" ("wolf" in Spanish), or neino (Shipibo for river otter), both considered to be somewhat voracious animals. This is the spirit of unhealthy desires, often sexual in nature. It manifests in a variety of ways, often images of sea creatures. When it is most intense it appears as very bloody and gratuitous violence, bloody animal teeth etc.