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1) It used to work that way. You didn't even have to put in special effort. It takes more effort to do what these companies do today to ensure nobody can interf

by Sakos 3y ago

1) It used to work that way. You didn't even have to put in special effort. It takes more effort to do what these companies do today to ensure nobody can interface with their service. 2) Apparently we need regulation to make companies do it today, and that will force these companies to allow interoperability.

shagie 3y ago
What would it take to get gcc to export its AST so that greater interoperability could be achieved with other FOSS packages (like Emacs)? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8861360 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8861360 (one of the indexes of the issue)
aurareturn 3y ago
I didn't remember AIM being able to send messages to MSNor ICQ.
- Sakos 3y ago
  https://appleinsider.com/articles/11/12/14/microsoft_opens_messenger_to_xmpp_allowing_apple_to_connect_ichat_ios_clients https://appleinsider.com/articles/11/12/14/microsoft_opens_m... This is what the internet used to be like. Nowadays, something like this would be unthinkable. But you could use Pidgin to connect to Facebook Messenger, AIM, ICQ and MSN. No, you couldn't necessarily use your AIM account to talk to somebody on FB, but that was only because the companies making these services didn't implement this. The fact is, it could've been done if they wanted. The technology was there, the environment was there, the open standard that almost everybody was using was there. https://superuser.com/questions/717272/is-it-possible-to-talk-to-aim-users-with-any-jabber-client-via-any-jabber-accoun https://superuser.com/questions/717272/is-it-possible-to-tal... Now you have Discord, Facebook, etc. banning third party clients and enforcing a walled garden when they don't have to. It's a conscious choice they're making. I'm not sure why you're defending the current state of things. It's worse now.

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1) It used to work that way. You didn't even have to put in special effort. It takes more effort to do what these companies do today to ensure nobody can interf

by Sakos 3y ago

shagie 3y ago
What would it take to get gcc to export its AST so that greater interoperability could be achieved with other FOSS packages (like Emacs)? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8861360 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8861360 (one of the indexes of the issue)
aurareturn 3y ago
I didn't remember AIM being able to send messages to MSNor ICQ.
- Sakos 3y ago
  https://appleinsider.com/articles/11/12/14/microsoft_opens_messenger_to_xmpp_allowing_apple_to_connect_ichat_ios_clients https://appleinsider.com/articles/11/12/14/microsoft_opens_m... This is what the internet used to be like. Nowadays, something like this would be unthinkable. But you could use Pidgin to connect to Facebook Messenger, AIM, ICQ and MSN. No, you couldn't necessarily use your AIM account to talk to somebody on FB, but that was only because the companies making these services didn't implement this. The fact is, it could've been done if they wanted. The technology was there, the environment was there, the open standard that almost everybody was using was there. https://superuser.com/questions/717272/is-it-possible-to-talk-to-aim-users-with-any-jabber-client-via-any-jabber-accoun https://superuser.com/questions/717272/is-it-possible-to-tal... Now you have Discord, Facebook, etc. banning third party clients and enforcing a walled garden when they don't have to. It's a conscious choice they're making. I'm not sure why you're defending the current state of things. It's worse now.