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Mind that Xbox is much smaller outside the US and the UK compared to the other console makers. From the top of my head, the percentage counts for Europe in con

Mind that Xbox is much smaller outside the US and the UK compared to the other console makers. From the top of my head, the percentage counts for Europe in console market share are around 50/40/10 (Nintendo/Sony/Xbox). So yes, they probably have 120 million MAUs globally, but the overwhelming majority of those will be coming from the US, where Xbox controls about half the console market. (Just for completeness sake: Xbox has almost no presence in Asia, South America or Africa - their failures in Asia are well documented and Xbox does no advertising whatsoever in South America whilst the African gaming market isn't large enough to be worth considering since there are other priorities there). And of course, those users aren't considered for EU legislation since the US isn't part of the EEA.

nottorp 3y ago
Interesting enough, back in the ps3/ps4 days everyone in my corner of Eastern Europe seemed to have gone for an xbox (and maybe even an xbox 360). In the past few years, the xboxes were always in stock while people were joining waiting lists and lotteries * for the PS5. * One large electronics chain actually had a lottery for the PS5 preorders at launch, because they weren't getting enough to cover what was already paid for! Some lucky people got a PS5 the rest got their money back :)
- bombcar 3y ago
  Every generation has the "most piracy friendly console" and that one often does quite well, for that and other reasons. The Xbox was king there for awhile.
  - nottorp 3y ago
    That too. I guess people have got used to paying for games now and are picking the console based on exclusives/general experience. In my mind the xbox is for dudebro shooters and the playstation is for original, creative games. Things may have changed from the original xbox but it's too late for me.
    - bombcar 3y ago
      Halo and XBMC really shaped (at least) my perception of the consoles even to this day; but I got an Xbox X because it plays blu-ray and was in stock. Later I learned the PS5 can't even play CDs so maybe I dodged a tiny bullet. Of course, most of the actual gaming happens on the Switch, but if it's cross-platform I'll probably get it on the Xbox (Hogwarts, for example).
      - nottorp 3y ago
        > Halo and XBMC really shaped (at least) my perception of the consoles even to this day; but I got an Xbox X because it plays blu-ray and was in stock. Sorry. I played the windows port of the first Halo until some level with a jeep. I got lost in it, didn't know where to go, and I abandoned it. I kinda weaned myself off shooters (except Serious Sam) about then, or with some return to castle wolfenstein game which i found about as boring. And that was even before cover based shooters... As for XBMC... I don't like having a noisy power hungry box on when I watch a movie. Had different solutions, right now using a Chromecast. > Of course, most of the actual gaming happens on the Switch It's interesting from the outside how Nintendo has captured the minds of gamers everywhere where they grew up with those gameboys and NESes... Me, I grew up with ZX Spectrum clones that were 'just a computer'. Then I got different computers. Fine. Not really a fan of a platform.
    - somenameforme 3y ago
      They seem to be going to PC, at least assuming few people are replacing consoles with mobile gaming. [1] I gamed on consoles for nearly 3 decades, but I don't understand the current appeal. 'Back in the day', consoles were heavily subsidized loss leaders, and launched with extremely high end hardware. The video card in the original XBox was not only a beast, but also worth substantially more than the entire console was sold for! At the same time PC gaming was pretty tough. Steam didn't even exist until 2003, and in it's early days - it was little more than a DRM wrapper for Counterstrike. And that was also the era when a new PC was outdated in a few months, and completely obsolete in a few years. Now we're in the era where consoles launch with midrange PC hardware sold at a markup to hit profitability ASAP, console games have things like day 1 patches/ad-filled dashboards/pay to use your own internet/etc, PC gaming has become amazingly convenient, and a decent PC from 5 years ago can still run nearly all new games today, with no performance issues whatsoever. [1] - https://www.visualcapitalist.com/50-years-gaming-history-revenue-stream/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/50-years-gaming-history-rev...

nottorp 3y ago

Interesting enough, back in the ps3/ps4 days everyone in my corner of Eastern Europe seemed to have gone for an xbox (and maybe even an xbox 360). In the past few years, the xboxes were always in stock while people were joining waiting lists and lotteries * for the PS5. * One large electronics chain actually had a lottery for the PS5 preorders at launch, because they weren't getting enough to cover what was already paid for! Some lucky people got a PS5 the rest got their money back :)

bombcar 3y ago
Every generation has the "most piracy friendly console" and that one often does quite well, for that and other reasons. The Xbox was king there for awhile.
- nottorp 3y ago
  That too. I guess people have got used to paying for games now and are picking the console based on exclusives/general experience. In my mind the xbox is for dudebro shooters and the playstation is for original, creative games. Things may have changed from the original xbox but it's too late for me.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    Halo and XBMC really shaped (at least) my perception of the consoles even to this day; but I got an Xbox X because it plays blu-ray and was in stock. Later I learned the PS5 can't even play CDs so maybe I dodged a tiny bullet. Of course, most of the actual gaming happens on the Switch, but if it's cross-platform I'll probably get it on the Xbox (Hogwarts, for example).
    - nottorp 3y ago
      > Halo and XBMC really shaped (at least) my perception of the consoles even to this day; but I got an Xbox X because it plays blu-ray and was in stock. Sorry. I played the windows port of the first Halo until some level with a jeep. I got lost in it, didn't know where to go, and I abandoned it. I kinda weaned myself off shooters (except Serious Sam) about then, or with some return to castle wolfenstein game which i found about as boring. And that was even before cover based shooters... As for XBMC... I don't like having a noisy power hungry box on when I watch a movie. Had different solutions, right now using a Chromecast. > Of course, most of the actual gaming happens on the Switch It's interesting from the outside how Nintendo has captured the minds of gamers everywhere where they grew up with those gameboys and NESes... Me, I grew up with ZX Spectrum clones that were 'just a computer'. Then I got different computers. Fine. Not really a fan of a platform.
  - somenameforme 3y ago
    They seem to be going to PC, at least assuming few people are replacing consoles with mobile gaming. [1] I gamed on consoles for nearly 3 decades, but I don't understand the current appeal. 'Back in the day', consoles were heavily subsidized loss leaders, and launched with extremely high end hardware. The video card in the original XBox was not only a beast, but also worth substantially more than the entire console was sold for! At the same time PC gaming was pretty tough. Steam didn't even exist until 2003, and in it's early days - it was little more than a DRM wrapper for Counterstrike. And that was also the era when a new PC was outdated in a few months, and completely obsolete in a few years. Now we're in the era where consoles launch with midrange PC hardware sold at a markup to hit profitability ASAP, console games have things like day 1 patches/ad-filled dashboards/pay to use your own internet/etc, PC gaming has become amazingly convenient, and a decent PC from 5 years ago can still run nearly all new games today, with no performance issues whatsoever. [1] - https://www.visualcapitalist.com/50-years-gaming-history-revenue-stream/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/50-years-gaming-history-rev...