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You've very clearly never participated in an audit if you believe this. Audits are a ton of work, to prove in excruciating detail that things actually work the

You've very clearly never participated in an audit if you believe this. Audits are a ton of work, to prove in excruciating detail that things actually work the way you claim they do.

izacus 3y ago
I have participated in such audits (and actually worked on things like GDPR compliance on rather large corporations). Yes, they're a ton of work. But that's what the job is, sorry if now developers need to work to undo anticompetitive crap they pulled in their products.
- hn_go_brrrrr 3y ago
  You're again assuming remediation work. Just the work required for an audit that you end up passing can take weeks.
  - izacus 3y ago
    Yes, I know. What of it? Comes with the size and money. Just like when we were building medical stuff that came with it's own audits and how banking also does. Cost of earning all that sweet cash.
    - hn_go_brrrrr 3y ago
      You started off with > I mean, if you did a good job, then this is no extra work for you. And now we're at > What of it? Comes with the size and money. which is quite the difference. It no longer matters if you did a good job, suck it up and take the audit? It also wholly misses what the root-comment Googler was complaining about. You may feel that Google as a whole "deserves" this somehow, but the engineer was saying it feels like a slap in the face to everyone who was working hard on DMA compliance. > Why should trillion dollar companies get a pass? Because some engineer will feel bad about a probe that is a mile over their head? No, but this is a remarkably unsympathetic take to someone who is venting. You're looking to Google-bash, and that's fine, I'm usually happy to join you in that, but look past the megacorp to the person who is pissed that their hard work and that of their team seems pointless.
yau8edq12i 3y ago
I'm sure a trillion dollar company can manage to do that. Why should the EC trust these companies? My local government will go through any plan I make for modifications to my house. Why should trillion dollar companies get a pass? Because some engineer will feel bad about a probe that is a mile over their head?

You've very clearly never participated in an audit if you believe this. Audits are a ton of work, to prove in excruciating detail that things actually work the way you claim they do.

izacus 3y ago

I have participated in such audits (and actually worked on things like GDPR compliance on rather large corporations). Yes, they're a ton of work. But that's what the job is, sorry if now developers need to work to undo anticompetitive crap they pulled in their products.

hn_go_brrrrr 3y ago
You're again assuming remediation work. Just the work required for an audit that you end up passing can take weeks.
- izacus 3y ago
  Yes, I know. What of it? Comes with the size and money. Just like when we were building medical stuff that came with it's own audits and how banking also does. Cost of earning all that sweet cash.
  - hn_go_brrrrr 3y ago
    You started off with > I mean, if you did a good job, then this is no extra work for you. And now we're at > What of it? Comes with the size and money. which is quite the difference. It no longer matters if you did a good job, suck it up and take the audit? It also wholly misses what the root-comment Googler was complaining about. You may feel that Google as a whole "deserves" this somehow, but the engineer was saying it feels like a slap in the face to everyone who was working hard on DMA compliance. > Why should trillion dollar companies get a pass? Because some engineer will feel bad about a probe that is a mile over their head? No, but this is a remarkably unsympathetic take to someone who is venting. You're looking to Google-bash, and that's fine, I'm usually happy to join you in that, but look past the megacorp to the person who is pissed that their hard work and that of their team seems pointless.

yau8edq12i 3y ago

I'm sure a trillion dollar company can manage to do that. Why should the EC trust these companies? My local government will go through any plan I make for modifications to my house. Why should trillion dollar companies get a pass? Because some engineer will feel bad about a probe that is a mile over their head?