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'We' as an industry also seem to be very allergic to any sort of formal certification process, so this is where we end up. On the positive side that means that
by dagw 3y ago
'We' as an industry also seem to be very allergic to any sort of formal certification process, so this is where we end up. On the positive side that means that in theory anyone can show up with no formal training, pass the interview, and get a job (as I'm sure many of us here have). That is literally impossible for all the other jobs you mentioned.
We either have to start requiring the same level of formal certification we require of other engineering professions or we have to deal with these types of interviews.
- arp242 3y agoAnd let's not pretend there aren't plenty of bozos who don't really know what they're doing in other fields. It's entirely unclear to me whether certification helps. Previous comment on the subject: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37989386 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37989386
- dagw 3y agoIt's entirely unclear to me whether certification helps. I've worked a lot in civil engineering, and honestly the worst working civil engineer I've worked with was still a lot better at their job than the worst working programmer I've worked with.
- arp242 3y agoThe thing is, I've worked with people who literally cannot program at all, and both of those also had college degrees. I suppose some kind of certification can set something of a minimum baseline, but I don't know – colour me skeptical.