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I really have no idea how anyone could consider the books unimaginative. Dull and even cringeworthy I might be able to understand but still don't truly agree.

by geoah 3y ago

I really have no idea how anyone could consider the books unimaginative. Dull and even cringeworthy I might be able to understand but still don't truly agree. My only issue with the books is that the characters are pretty one dimensional which is something that does pop up in the series as well. (MINOR CHARACTER SPOILERS) Luo Ji simply doesn't care, Wade is a dick, Tianming is a loner, Da shi is a hero, etc.

adastra22 3y ago
By imaginative do you mean the whole dark forest game theory and such? That's all taken straight from the original SETI scientific discussions back in the 60's and 70's. It's been explored by various scientists in that context, as well as a whole slew of sci-fi authors in the intervening years. The version of the theory presented in 3BP doesn't hold water, but there have been various strengthened alternatives presented over the years. The Killing Star comes to mind, but I think also the wolves of the Revelation Space series are a good match too. Sci-fi also abounds with many other innovative answers to the Fermi paradox that make more sense than the dark forest hypothesis. Other than that I really don't know what you might take as 'innovative.' Antinatalists wanting to wipe out humanity? Done to death since Limits to Growth, The Population Bomb, and Silent Spring were released in the 1970's, albeit usually with environmentalists occupying that role. Frankly I'm tired to death of that trope. PTSD from the cultural revolution? Well other than the slew of books and memoirs on that very topic, there's also all of holocaust literature. It certainly has a very imaginative misunderstanding of the three body problem which gives the book it's title. Not only does the author completely misunderstand what it means for there to be no closed-form solution to the three body problem (it does NOT mean orbits would be chaotic), but interestingly we've actually discovered an exoplanet where the trisolan planet is in the book. And guess what? It's in a perfectly stable orbit within the habitable zone. So the whole plot gimmick that gives the book its title turns out to be a misunderstanding of undergraduate mathematics and physics by the author.

by geoah 3y ago

adastra22 3y ago

By imaginative do you mean the whole dark forest game theory and such? That's all taken straight from the original SETI scientific discussions back in the 60's and 70's. It's been explored by various scientists in that context, as well as a whole slew of sci-fi authors in the intervening years. The version of the theory presented in 3BP doesn't hold water, but there have been various strengthened alternatives presented over the years. The Killing Star comes to mind, but I think also the wolves of the Revelation Space series are a good match too. Sci-fi also abounds with many other innovative answers to the Fermi paradox that make more sense than the dark forest hypothesis. Other than that I really don't know what you might take as 'innovative.' Antinatalists wanting to wipe out humanity? Done to death since Limits to Growth, The Population Bomb, and Silent Spring were released in the 1970's, albeit usually with environmentalists occupying that role. Frankly I'm tired to death of that trope. PTSD from the cultural revolution? Well other than the slew of books and memoirs on that very topic, there's also all of holocaust literature. It certainly has a very imaginative misunderstanding of the three body problem which gives the book it's title. Not only does the author completely misunderstand what it means for there to be no closed-form solution to the three body problem (it does NOT mean orbits would be chaotic), but interestingly we've actually discovered an exoplanet where the trisolan planet is in the book. And guess what? It's in a perfectly stable orbit within the habitable zone. So the whole plot gimmick that gives the book its title turns out to be a misunderstanding of undergraduate mathematics and physics by the author.