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Deadlifts are also famous for having a high injury rate. I wouldn’t recommend them to anyone who doesn’t have a base core strength and a coach of some sort to t

by Swizec 3y ago

Deadlifts are also famous for having a high injury rate. I wouldn’t recommend them to anyone who doesn’t have a base core strength and a coach of some sort to teach proper technique. For things like walking and running the safety margins are much bigger. Then again maybe not, I had my sister who trained track in high school teach me technique before I started running more seriously.

stavros 3y ago
Yeah, unfortunately the book Starting Strength made it sound like it was extremely safe to do on your own. The "no true Scotsman" of "if you got injured, you were doing it wrong by definition" didn't help.
- Swizec 3y ago
  If it helps you feel better, I know people who were lifting heavy for years, even competing in bodybuilding and threw out their back moving an empty bar because they didn’t think of it as a deadlift and used poor form
- thefaux 3y ago
  It seems to me that it is important to communicate that you can injure yourself easily if you do deadlifts wrong. With any weightlifting exercise it is important to start with an easy weight and make sure that you are confident that you have good form before adding weight. Deadlifting can be done safely which is evinced by the many people who have done it without injuring themselves. I feel for you that you got bad advice. I do agree however that with good form, it should be difficult to injure yourself seriously deadlifting. The rub is that not everyone has the ability to self-assess and some coaches are also bad. If you are not very confident you will not hurt yourself, you absolutely should not deadlift heavy weights.
  - stavros 3y ago
    But that's like saying "you can play Russian roulette safely if you do it properly". Sometimes you get injured no matter how good your form is, and sometimes you get lucky and are fine even if your form is poor.
    - sn9 3y ago
      But in terms of the actual empirical risk, they're extremely safe when programmed intelligently with appropriate load selection and consistent technique.

by Swizec 3y ago

stavros 3y ago

Yeah, unfortunately the book Starting Strength made it sound like it was extremely safe to do on your own. The "no true Scotsman" of "if you got injured, you were doing it wrong by definition" didn't help.

Swizec 3y ago
If it helps you feel better, I know people who were lifting heavy for years, even competing in bodybuilding and threw out their back moving an empty bar because they didn’t think of it as a deadlift and used poor form
thefaux 3y ago
It seems to me that it is important to communicate that you can injure yourself easily if you do deadlifts wrong. With any weightlifting exercise it is important to start with an easy weight and make sure that you are confident that you have good form before adding weight. Deadlifting can be done safely which is evinced by the many people who have done it without injuring themselves. I feel for you that you got bad advice. I do agree however that with good form, it should be difficult to injure yourself seriously deadlifting. The rub is that not everyone has the ability to self-assess and some coaches are also bad. If you are not very confident you will not hurt yourself, you absolutely should not deadlift heavy weights.
- stavros 3y ago
  But that's like saying "you can play Russian roulette safely if you do it properly". Sometimes you get injured no matter how good your form is, and sometimes you get lucky and are fine even if your form is poor.
  - sn9 3y ago
    But in terms of the actual empirical risk, they're extremely safe when programmed intelligently with appropriate load selection and consistent technique.