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I think many of us did read before commenting, and simply find that Huxley or Pohl or ... had much more interesting things to say about the problem than TFA. Su

I think many of us did read before commenting, and simply find that Huxley or Pohl or ... had much more interesting things to say about the problem than TFA. Sure, "the pie is big enough, it just needs to be sliced better" is true, and would be a simple technical sol'n, but as a social sol'n? Someone famously attempted to say much the same thing a few thousand years ago, but got nailed to sticks for his trouble.

dmd 3y ago
Why would you abbreviate “solution”?
- 082349872349872 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitus_(sociology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitus_(sociology) , in particular signalling that people from my cultural background have historically been strong on the technical side but weak on the social. (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39783112 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39783112 might be a good intro?)
  - appplication 3y ago
    That layman’s introduction to Bourdieu was a nice read. I am getting a bit of an odd vibe from your claim of cultural technical superiority though. I assume it was intended to be more of a self-aware quip than anything else.
    - 082349872349872 3y ago
      Yes. In fact, the original use of "sol'n" was pure habit, and the habitus stuff is just a post-hoc way to (a) rationalise why I used it, and (b) introduce something I recently found interesting[0]. But it is a gang sign, of sorts — instead of throwing "westside" or some similar geographic allegiance[1], it's declaring (an actual, or a desired?) membership with that gang of people who care about systems, existence and uniqueness of sol'ns, and the distinction between general and particular sol'ns. Are we better at coming up with technical sol'ns than that other gang, those who spend their time finding new ways to tell people what they like to hear? That question I leave as an exercise for the reader. [0] compare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_M._Kornbluth#:~:text=When%20Kornbluth%20wrote,on%20the%20'B's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_M._Kornbluth#:~:text=Whe... [1] compare https://external-preview.redd.it/TQRIW7YgWIIzjk4-yrci1V7VMxJhh4IqW6um3iwsJS0.jpg?auto=webp&s=da99c593e4a8800ff71b49864558fce7afa4ca3d https://external-preview.redd.it/TQRIW7YgWIIzjk4-yrci1V7VMxJ...

dmd 3y ago

Why would you abbreviate “solution”?

082349872349872 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitus_(sociology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitus_(sociology) , in particular signalling that people from my cultural background have historically been strong on the technical side but weak on the social. (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39783112 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39783112 might be a good intro?)
- appplication 3y ago
  That layman’s introduction to Bourdieu was a nice read. I am getting a bit of an odd vibe from your claim of cultural technical superiority though. I assume it was intended to be more of a self-aware quip than anything else.
  - 082349872349872 3y ago
    Yes. In fact, the original use of "sol'n" was pure habit, and the habitus stuff is just a post-hoc way to (a) rationalise why I used it, and (b) introduce something I recently found interesting[0]. But it is a gang sign, of sorts — instead of throwing "westside" or some similar geographic allegiance[1], it's declaring (an actual, or a desired?) membership with that gang of people who care about systems, existence and uniqueness of sol'ns, and the distinction between general and particular sol'ns. Are we better at coming up with technical sol'ns than that other gang, those who spend their time finding new ways to tell people what they like to hear? That question I leave as an exercise for the reader. [0] compare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_M._Kornbluth#:~:text=When%20Kornbluth%20wrote,on%20the%20'B's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_M._Kornbluth#:~:text=Whe... [1] compare https://external-preview.redd.it/TQRIW7YgWIIzjk4-yrci1V7VMxJhh4IqW6um3iwsJS0.jpg?auto=webp&s=da99c593e4a8800ff71b49864558fce7afa4ca3d https://external-preview.redd.it/TQRIW7YgWIIzjk4-yrci1V7VMxJ...