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> Get In Touch > Contact Sales Nope, hard pass. If you don't list your prices on your website I'm never going to be a customer.

athorax 3y ago
You were never their target audience. There is never one price off the shelf pricing for this kind of hardware
- deprecative 3y ago
  Grift pricing denotes a grift. If there's no price then the price is made up.
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  - __loam 3y ago
    I'd bet money there's thousands of b2b deals that look exactly like this.
    - moooo99 3y ago
      Considering most of the B2B deals are a huge PITA I’m not sure this is a good thing?
  - martyvis 3y ago
    All prices anywhere are "just made up". It's cost + taxes + profit margin you want to make on this deal. The market elasticity determines how often you want to move that price up or down.
  - aaronblohowiak 3y ago
    All prices are made up, except maybe “efficient” commodity markets..
  - fnordpiglet 3y ago
    Enterprise pricing is absolutely a grift, but one where the grifted and grifters are promoted when they fall for the grift.
- CamperBob2 3y ago
  That's what they told Michael Dell, too.
  - bananapub 3y ago
    ... dell famously doesn't have one price either.
    - rcxdude 3y ago
      but they do generally have a price. Even if it's the super-high no-one-should-actually-pay-this price, it really helps with evaluating whether something should even be on the list to contact sales about.
    - CamperBob2 3y ago
      Of course not. The idea was that you'd get a base price from the ad, then call Dell's 1-800 number to order and customize the system. That way you didn't have to waste time haggling with salesdroids if the price was 10x what you could afford. They didn't just "tell him," they laughed their heads off at him. Advertising prices and selling direct Just Was Not Done. Until it was, leaving a trail of bankrupt competitors that looked like that road in Iraq.
fbdab103 3y ago
It is not a consumer item. The people who would consider this product are well acquainted will involving sales people.
wpm 3y ago
You were gonna drop $2.5M on one of these racks?
- andrewstuart 3y ago
  On Visa card.
  - wmf 3y ago
    You joke but apparently a lot of startups are putting their cloud bill on a credit card for the points. Sometimes even a personal card.
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thfuran 3y ago
Welcome to b2b.
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wmf 3y ago
It's (unofficially) a half million to a million depending on configuration.
seabird 3y ago
That's great as far as they're concerned. This is a seven digit purchase with a lot of moving parts. They need to know that you can actually pay them and you need to get an opportunity for your lawyers to grill them and get them on the hook for as much as possible. The big leagues aren't for everybody.
speedgoose 3y ago
It’s a great filter. If the price is a "contact us" it means they target businesses with more money than IT skills.

athorax 3y ago

You were never their target audience. There is never one price off the shelf pricing for this kind of hardware

deprecative 3y ago
Grift pricing denotes a grift. If there's no price then the price is made up.
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- __loam 3y ago
  I'd bet money there's thousands of b2b deals that look exactly like this.
  - moooo99 3y ago
    Considering most of the B2B deals are a huge PITA I’m not sure this is a good thing?
- martyvis 3y ago
  All prices anywhere are "just made up". It's cost + taxes + profit margin you want to make on this deal. The market elasticity determines how often you want to move that price up or down.
- aaronblohowiak 3y ago
  All prices are made up, except maybe “efficient” commodity markets..
- fnordpiglet 3y ago
  Enterprise pricing is absolutely a grift, but one where the grifted and grifters are promoted when they fall for the grift.
CamperBob2 3y ago
That's what they told Michael Dell, too.
- bananapub 3y ago
  ... dell famously doesn't have one price either.
  - rcxdude 3y ago
    but they do generally have a price. Even if it's the super-high no-one-should-actually-pay-this price, it really helps with evaluating whether something should even be on the list to contact sales about.
  - CamperBob2 3y ago
    Of course not. The idea was that you'd get a base price from the ad, then call Dell's 1-800 number to order and customize the system. That way you didn't have to waste time haggling with salesdroids if the price was 10x what you could afford. They didn't just "tell him," they laughed their heads off at him. Advertising prices and selling direct Just Was Not Done. Until it was, leaving a trail of bankrupt competitors that looked like that road in Iraq.

fbdab103 3y ago

It is not a consumer item. The people who would consider this product are well acquainted will involving sales people.

wpm 3y ago

You were gonna drop $2.5M on one of these racks?

andrewstuart 3y ago
On Visa card.
- wmf 3y ago
  You joke but apparently a lot of startups are putting their cloud bill on a credit card for the points. Sometimes even a personal card.
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thfuran 3y ago

Welcome to b2b.

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wmf 3y ago

It's (unofficially) a half million to a million depending on configuration.

seabird 3y ago

That's great as far as they're concerned. This is a seven digit purchase with a lot of moving parts. They need to know that you can actually pay them and you need to get an opportunity for your lawyers to grill them and get them on the hook for as much as possible. The big leagues aren't for everybody.

speedgoose 3y ago

It’s a great filter. If the price is a "contact us" it means they target businesses with more money than IT skills.