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Does anybody knows about a tiling WM that allows customising the position of the first window you open? I have an ultra wide display, and I want the first windo

by m1keil 3y ago

Does anybody knows about a tiling WM that allows customising the position of the first window you open? I have an ultra wide display, and I want the first window I open to be roughly 1/3 in screen width and placed in the centre. From memory of playing with i3/sway, it would allow different layouts but the 1st screen would always be full screen and I would have to do something like choose "thirds layout" and "open terminal, open app I want, open terminal".

pkkm 3y ago
Related question, since we're on the topic: does Linux have a way to split a single wide monitor into smaller "virtual" monitors?
- throw20240324 3y ago
  I do this with xmonad. https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib/XMonad-Layout-LayoutScreens.html https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib/XMonad-L...
- chills 3y ago
  X does, you can use xrandr --setmonitor. For example, splitting a 5120x1440 monitor into three: xrandr --setmonitor DisplayPort-0-0 1280/297x1440/340+0+0 none xrandr --setmonitor DisplayPort-0-1 2560/595x1440/340+1280+0 none xrandr --setmonitor DisplayPort-0-2 1280/297x1440/340+3840+0 none
- mxmilkiib 3y ago
  I'd like to do this under AwesomeWM but cannot https://github.com/awesomeWM/awesome/issues/3132 https://github.com/awesomeWM/awesome/issues/3132
FreeFull 3y ago
That's possible with Niri, with its center-focused-column and default-column-width settings. It's not a traditional tiling WM, though
- m1keil 3y ago
  Never heard of Niri before. Will take a look, cheers.
- christophilus 3y ago
  I do it with PaperWM which is a niri-like Gnome extension.
nerdix 3y ago
I do something like that on a 49 inch 32:9 ultra wide with hyprland.i don't have my config handy but basically you want to use the master layout and set orientation to center. You can also play around with new_is_master and always_center_master based on your preferences. https://wiki.hyprland.org/Configuring/Master-Layout/ https://wiki.hyprland.org/Configuring/Master-Layout/
- m1keil 3y ago
  Thanks, will take a look.
  - phero_cnstrcts 3y ago
    Please report back if it is working for you. I have the same problem.
    - ccakes 3y ago
      I just changed and this is a LOT nicer! Also on a 49" ultrawide Thanks for the protip!
      - nerdix 3y ago
        You can also use the swapwithmaster dispatch to cycle windows into the center position with a keyboard shortcut.
gryn 3y ago
you can write a script to hack that behaviour with i3-msg `i3-msg -t get_tree`. it's frustrating that you cant have empty tiles though, you'll need to write in your a script 0% opacity panes that get replaced when a new windows is created.
nullwarp 3y ago
I did this with AwesomeWM. The Lain (plugin/extension/i forget what its called in awesome) has a "centerwork" style layout that solves this exact issue. Actually it's really surprising how few tiling WMs support this sort of scenario. I eventually just gave up and switched to KDE+KZones as it covers 90% of what I'd get from a tiling WM anyway.
clircle 3y ago
Dwm has a patch for this. I think you can use vanity gaps, and make the outer gaps depend on a layout or window rule.
dsissitka 3y ago
That's one of the reasons I use i3. gaps horizontal 417 gaps inner 10 smart_gaps inverse_outer https://imgur.com/a/MjNBgms https://imgur.com/a/MjNBgms
pkulak 3y ago
I wrote my own layout manager to do exactly this: https://github.com/pkulak/filtile https://github.com/pkulak/filtile
kinleyd 3y ago
Hyprland can do that, quite easily. It has windows rules that allow you to place everything just so.
000ooo000 3y ago
IIRC, Sway supports this. On an empty workspace, the first window I open is centered and about 800x800px, and on opening a second, both windows begin tiling and take up the whole screen. I think is the relevant setting: # Only enable outer gaps when there is exactly one container smart_gaps inverse_outer And I have these gap values in my config: gaps horizontal 1000px gaps vertical 100px HTH
beginnings 3y ago
hyprland isnt a window manager, its a wayland compositor that doesnt sacrifice on looks

by m1keil 3y ago

pkkm 3y ago

Related question, since we're on the topic: does Linux have a way to split a single wide monitor into smaller "virtual" monitors?

throw20240324 3y ago
I do this with xmonad. https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib/XMonad-Layout-LayoutScreens.html https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib/XMonad-L...
chills 3y ago
X does, you can use xrandr --setmonitor. For example, splitting a 5120x1440 monitor into three: xrandr --setmonitor DisplayPort-0-0 1280/297x1440/340+0+0 none xrandr --setmonitor DisplayPort-0-1 2560/595x1440/340+1280+0 none xrandr --setmonitor DisplayPort-0-2 1280/297x1440/340+3840+0 none
mxmilkiib 3y ago
I'd like to do this under AwesomeWM but cannot https://github.com/awesomeWM/awesome/issues/3132 https://github.com/awesomeWM/awesome/issues/3132

FreeFull 3y ago

That's possible with Niri, with its center-focused-column and default-column-width settings. It's not a traditional tiling WM, though

m1keil 3y ago
Never heard of Niri before. Will take a look, cheers.
christophilus 3y ago
I do it with PaperWM which is a niri-like Gnome extension.

nerdix 3y ago

I do something like that on a 49 inch 32:9 ultra wide with hyprland.i don't have my config handy but basically you want to use the master layout and set orientation to center. You can also play around with new_is_master and always_center_master based on your preferences. https://wiki.hyprland.org/Configuring/Master-Layout/ https://wiki.hyprland.org/Configuring/Master-Layout/

m1keil 3y ago
Thanks, will take a look.
- phero_cnstrcts 3y ago
  Please report back if it is working for you. I have the same problem.
  - ccakes 3y ago
    I just changed and this is a LOT nicer! Also on a 49" ultrawide Thanks for the protip!
    - nerdix 3y ago
      You can also use the swapwithmaster dispatch to cycle windows into the center position with a keyboard shortcut.

gryn 3y ago

you can write a script to hack that behaviour with i3-msg `i3-msg -t get_tree`. it's frustrating that you cant have empty tiles though, you'll need to write in your a script 0% opacity panes that get replaced when a new windows is created.

nullwarp 3y ago

I did this with AwesomeWM. The Lain (plugin/extension/i forget what its called in awesome) has a "centerwork" style layout that solves this exact issue. Actually it's really surprising how few tiling WMs support this sort of scenario. I eventually just gave up and switched to KDE+KZones as it covers 90% of what I'd get from a tiling WM anyway.

clircle 3y ago

Dwm has a patch for this. I think you can use vanity gaps, and make the outer gaps depend on a layout or window rule.

dsissitka 3y ago

That's one of the reasons I use i3. gaps horizontal 417 gaps inner 10 smart_gaps inverse_outer https://imgur.com/a/MjNBgms https://imgur.com/a/MjNBgms

pkulak 3y ago

I wrote my own layout manager to do exactly this: https://github.com/pkulak/filtile https://github.com/pkulak/filtile

kinleyd 3y ago

Hyprland can do that, quite easily. It has windows rules that allow you to place everything just so.

000ooo000 3y ago

IIRC, Sway supports this. On an empty workspace, the first window I open is centered and about 800x800px, and on opening a second, both windows begin tiling and take up the whole screen. I think is the relevant setting: # Only enable outer gaps when there is exactly one container smart_gaps inverse_outer And I have these gap values in my config: gaps horizontal 1000px gaps vertical 100px HTH

beginnings 3y ago

hyprland isnt a window manager, its a wayland compositor that doesnt sacrifice on looks