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It's not ~too~ geeky to maintain a NAS. I got a Synology. It has 5 drives, and the ones I have are fairly quiet so the thing goes under the TV counter. However

It's not ~too~ geeky to maintain a NAS. I got a Synology. It has 5 drives, and the ones I have are fairly quiet so the thing goes under the TV counter. However, if you want to rip 4K blurays, you've got to flash the firmware on your bluray drive and then run MakeMkV + handbrake (or much harder CLI stuff) to process a disc into a useable media file which can THEN go into Plex. All of that takes time and effort, and usually some trial and error. I also keep a bluray player next to the NAS. Simply because it's too much of a pain to deal with ripping sometimes. I still have to get through my 30-disc Ingmar Bergman Criterion Boxset that I bought 2 years ago. Much easier to pop a disc in the player!

sroussey 3y ago
Details of the flash firmware?
- aspenmayer 3y ago
  Probably LibreDrive for use with MakeMKV. https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18856 https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18856
  - crispyambulance 3y ago
    Yep, that's it. It seems to be the only way to rip a 4K. No drives (that I know of) allow ripping 4K "out of the box"!
    - aspenmayer 3y ago
      I think you're correct; as far as I know ripping 4K/UHD with no modification to the drive and/or drive firmware is not possible without other workarounds, which apparently are possible, as I elaborate on below. Apparently as of recently at [CCC 37C3: Unlocked] (December 2023) Adam Batori demonstrated a side channel attack against Intel SGX and AACSv2 in his talk called "Full AACSess: Exposing and exploiting AACSv2 UHD DRM for your viewing pleasure" although that has nothing to do with the specific drive used to my knowledge, though the specific Intel CPU used may have quirks which may make their particular implementation CPU and/or CPU microcode and/or motherboard dependent. Previously on HN: Full AACSess: Exposing and exploiting AACSv2 UHD DRM for your viewing pleasure [video] 6 points by hcadam | 2023-12-29 | 1 comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38810011 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38810011 https://media.ccc.de/v/37c3-12296-full_aacsess_exposing_and_exploiting_aacsv2_uhd_drm_for_your_viewing_pleasure https://media.ccc.de/v/37c3-12296-full_aacsess_exposing_and_... Video of the live demo above. Additionally, I have included a version of video on from the official media.ccc.de YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEBuiecLZGg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEBuiecLZGg Referenced by the above talk is prior work on defeating/bypassing AACS[v1] by Peter Eckersley in his talk titled "A Spotter's Guide to AACS Keys" at [CCC 24C3: Volldampf voraus!] in December 2007, which I also link below: https://media.ccc.de/v/24c3-2331-en-spotter_guide_to_aacs_keys https://media.ccc.de/v/24c3-2331-en-spotter_guide_to_aacs_ke... Also of interest from [CCC 36C3: Resource Exhaustion] is a talk by oct0xor titled "Hacking Sony PlayStation Blu-ray Drives" in December 2019: https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10567-hacking_sony_playstation_blu-ray_drives https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10567-hacking_sony_playstation_b... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW39dsbffMw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW39dsbffMw Apologies for lateness of my reply! I hope that helps.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    This plus a reencode with handbrake is what I use. I reencode to get size down and make it more compatible with what I have.
    - aspenmayer 3y ago
      > I reencode to get size down and make it more compatible with what I have. I’ve heard that some setups struggle with higher resolutions and bitrates, which is compounded on 4K (HDR also with its own quirks for downsampling in post processing for playback on unsupported devices) versus 1080p. These factors are exasperated when direct play isn’t possible due to incompatible files, unsupported container formats and/or codecs, or insufficient bandwidth, especially when remote mounts, caching, and transcoding come into play.
tombert 3y ago
Yeah, I actually have one of the drives that's ostensibly flashable to be 4k compatible, but I haven't been able to get it working. Honestly, I've been happy enough with 1080p. I think 1080p blu-rays still hold up pretty well visually. My biggest TV is 70", and I watch it from like 15 feet away, so I don't think I'd benefit much from the increased resolution. I know that there's other variables that are enhanced with a 4k blu-ray, but they haven't been significant enough for me to bother collecting/ripping them. When I buy a 4k blu-ray, I've just been ripping the regular 1080p blu-ray that always comes with it.

sroussey 3y ago

Details of the flash firmware?

aspenmayer 3y ago
Probably LibreDrive for use with MakeMKV. https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18856 https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18856
- crispyambulance 3y ago
  Yep, that's it. It seems to be the only way to rip a 4K. No drives (that I know of) allow ripping 4K "out of the box"!
  - aspenmayer 3y ago
    I think you're correct; as far as I know ripping 4K/UHD with no modification to the drive and/or drive firmware is not possible without other workarounds, which apparently are possible, as I elaborate on below. Apparently as of recently at [CCC 37C3: Unlocked] (December 2023) Adam Batori demonstrated a side channel attack against Intel SGX and AACSv2 in his talk called "Full AACSess: Exposing and exploiting AACSv2 UHD DRM for your viewing pleasure" although that has nothing to do with the specific drive used to my knowledge, though the specific Intel CPU used may have quirks which may make their particular implementation CPU and/or CPU microcode and/or motherboard dependent. Previously on HN: Full AACSess: Exposing and exploiting AACSv2 UHD DRM for your viewing pleasure [video] 6 points by hcadam | 2023-12-29 | 1 comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38810011 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38810011 https://media.ccc.de/v/37c3-12296-full_aacsess_exposing_and_exploiting_aacsv2_uhd_drm_for_your_viewing_pleasure https://media.ccc.de/v/37c3-12296-full_aacsess_exposing_and_... Video of the live demo above. Additionally, I have included a version of video on from the official media.ccc.de YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEBuiecLZGg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEBuiecLZGg Referenced by the above talk is prior work on defeating/bypassing AACS[v1] by Peter Eckersley in his talk titled "A Spotter's Guide to AACS Keys" at [CCC 24C3: Volldampf voraus!] in December 2007, which I also link below: https://media.ccc.de/v/24c3-2331-en-spotter_guide_to_aacs_keys https://media.ccc.de/v/24c3-2331-en-spotter_guide_to_aacs_ke... Also of interest from [CCC 36C3: Resource Exhaustion] is a talk by oct0xor titled "Hacking Sony PlayStation Blu-ray Drives" in December 2019: https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10567-hacking_sony_playstation_blu-ray_drives https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10567-hacking_sony_playstation_b... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW39dsbffMw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW39dsbffMw Apologies for lateness of my reply! I hope that helps.
- bombcar 3y ago
  This plus a reencode with handbrake is what I use. I reencode to get size down and make it more compatible with what I have.
  - aspenmayer 3y ago
    > I reencode to get size down and make it more compatible with what I have. I’ve heard that some setups struggle with higher resolutions and bitrates, which is compounded on 4K (HDR also with its own quirks for downsampling in post processing for playback on unsupported devices) versus 1080p. These factors are exasperated when direct play isn’t possible due to incompatible files, unsupported container formats and/or codecs, or insufficient bandwidth, especially when remote mounts, caching, and transcoding come into play.

tombert 3y ago

Yeah, I actually have one of the drives that's ostensibly flashable to be 4k compatible, but I haven't been able to get it working. Honestly, I've been happy enough with 1080p. I think 1080p blu-rays still hold up pretty well visually. My biggest TV is 70", and I watch it from like 15 feet away, so I don't think I'd benefit much from the increased resolution. I know that there's other variables that are enhanced with a 4k blu-ray, but they haven't been significant enough for me to bother collecting/ripping them. When I buy a 4k blu-ray, I've just been ripping the regular 1080p blu-ray that always comes with it.