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I don't necessarily need 4k Blu-ray quality myself but DVD quality is unbearable in my opinion.
by t-sauer 3y ago
I don't necessarily need 4k Blu-ray quality myself but DVD quality is unbearable in my opinion.
- tylerflick 3y agoAgreed. On modern TVs 480p looks rough.
- 0xcde4c3db 3y agoI don't mind 480p upscaled with a decent filter. Depending on the content, even 240p can work. What kills watchability for me is 480i. Maybe I just don't understand how things are suppposed to be done on modern setups, but it seems like the combination of deinterlacing plus upscaling is something that used to "just work" ca. 15 years ago and now it's almost impossible to get good results without either hooking up an old DVD player or getting a Ph.D. in ffmpeg.
- bombcar 3y agoYou have to understand the various TV types. OLED especially can look like crap if you don’t tune it right, because the pixels go on and off instantly, at least if what I heard was correct. 480i was built for the exact opposite, CRTs where pixels fade slowly.
- account42 3y agoOLED is irrelevant because the display isn't driven with interlaced data like a CRT TV might have been - instead the no matter the technology, all pixels are updated at the same time. The deinterlacing needs to happen before that and that was also needed for many displays back when DVDs were common.
- account42 3y agoSo much this and it really sucks for older sub-720p content that isn't released on Blu-Ray because of the low resolution so for non-interlaced versions you have to resort to streaming services (no thanks) or the high seas. Even 720p series often never got Blu-Ray releases so you are stuck with both interlacing and a signficantly lower resolution than what should be available.
- sourcecodeplz 3y agoI never got this. Yes, higher res looks better but I watch movies/shows for the story.
- verwalt 3y agoI mean, I totally get your side, but DVD is 1/24 the resolution of 4K and actual 4K with HDR on an OLED is simply another dimension of immersion for me.
- toast0 3y agoAs with all compressed media, resolution takes a backseat to quality of mastering / compression. I've yet to see a poorly mastered Blu-Ray, and only watched a couple Blu-Ray 4k discs, but online streams at 1080p or 4k are sometimes rather bitstarved so... With DVDs, some, perhaps many look just fine on a larger screen, but there are some whose mastering is very poor, and those will look really bad on a larger screen. My copy of Forest Gump features closeups where the characters face translates around on their head. But most of the other DVDs I've watched are fine. Yes, Blu-Ray would be better, but not so much that its worth rebuying.
- verwalt 3y agoI myself saw "Road House" on Thursday, 4K stream. A lot of dark scenes, perfect for OLED. But also very vulnerable to bitrate related quality problems. And it was fine. But other examples, like the first season of "Reacher", look like shit in 4K. Many artifacts resulting in skintones that get pushed into green or red. Super weird. Good encoding comes a long way, and not all services go the extra mile.
- account42 3y agoDark scenes don't have higher bitrate requirements than brighter scenes. The problem with dark scenes in movies is simply that video encoders have been tuned based on shit perceptual models that don't match how humans see things. If anything, something encoded for a constant bitrate will have less problems with dark scenes than something targeting an overall file size but with the encoder given leeway to assign bits to different parts of the movie.
- bombcar 3y agoIn my experience DVD looks bad when you hit pause, but a decent upscaler and not hitting pause is fine for most things. If I really like it or watch it more than twice, I’ll get the Blu-ray or 4K Blu-ray.