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A huge problem is privacy > without upload to a server Doesn't matter. If the app has to render them then it can still send them to the server. If the app doe
by nox101 3y ago
A huge problem is privacy
> without upload to a server
Doesn't matter. If the app has to render them then it can still send them to the server. If the app does not render directly it can still infer them by doing collision testing against them. If it can't even check for collisions then there isn't much point in having the data in the first place.
It gets worse. The more you want AR/MR to understand the scene the more fine grained data you need. The camera sees things like: the underwear you left on the floor, the medicines/pills on your table, the posters on your wall, the bank account browser tab still on your computer screen, the adult toys you forgot to put away, your undressed body, your dressed body, your political baseball cap or t-shirt, your naked roommate/spouse/kids who just walked into the room.
I don't see how this can be solved in a trust-less way. In other words, you'll have to trust each and every individual AR/MR app you use, that they aren't spying on you. The platform/device/OS itself can not prevent this and still allow the majority of the AR/MR uses that people imagine.
- littlestymaar 3y agoCompanies don't spy on you because they don't like you, they spy on you because they make money out of it. Outlaw making money out of personal data (by outlawing targeted ads, data purchase for insurance, and data brokers) and the incentives to spy on you disappear. You can't be probusiness and pro-privacy at the same time though, you need to limit businesses in order to protect the people.
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- thoughtlede 3y agoYes, the camera sees everything. But we could avoid teaching the model certain things. For instance, an undressed body and a dressed body could both be taught as a body. Likewise, medicine pills as well as regular mints could just be taught as mints. While this approach doesn’t address privacy completely, it avoids certain elements of our life that are considered really private. I think half of the point of using the simulated dataset to train the model was to safeguard the above mentioned kind of privacy (with the other half being lack of real-world dataset).
- jonplackett 3y agoI think there must be a way of doing this so you just have to trust the OS. The camera feed itself could be essentially private and only pass on locations and types of objects. In this way you could whitelist / blocklist items or categories. But you would defo have to trust the OS, and in this case Meta…