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It's a cool idea but I really don't like the front-end being used in the site. For instance, if you try to select the footer element, to block it, instead of th

It's a cool idea but I really don't like the front-end being used in the site. For instance, if you try to select the footer element, to block it, instead of the site showing you "#footer" (or something legible), it shows you something like ".lg\:px-8.sm\:px-6.px-4.max-w-7xl.mx-auto > .py-16". As well as it adding a "?ref=feedle.world" in all links you click by default. Also it would be nice an option that automatically loads more when you scroll down. Oh, and that "Welcome to feedle!" popup seems like dark pattern to me.

SamWhited 3y ago
I would have said the same thing about infinite scrolling; that always feels like a dark pattern to me because it makes it hard to find specific results again, hard (or impossible) to get to any links in the page footer, etc. I always just want a single page that I can link back to later :)
- hexage1814 3y ago
  To me, I think it depends on what is the goal when you are searching something and what is that data in particular. Infinite scroll and pagination offer different user experience proposes, and make different assumptions about the user. To give a blatant example where I don't see a pagination system making that much sense, pagination on a personalized news feed of some social media. That information is changing constantly. It's a never-ending information stream. Even in the case here, if you are searching for a blog or podcast, you could just link that blog article rather than the page search where you found that article. Especially in a situation where you don't have any interaction with that content aside clicking on it. Especially when the search engine doesn't seem to have millions of results, which seems to be the case here, it seems to be a relatively small list of blogs submitted to this site. Infinite scroll on the other hand have some problems especially in situations where you are expect to interact with that content one way or the other (such as a commentary section). In fact, when dealing with really large amounts of data, it essentially buries that data. Think about a commentary section with 60.000 commentaries. Essentially 98% of them are hidden way because the browser will crash before loading them. So if you decide to go down infinite scroll route, I think the very least you could do would be offer another way to search for stuff, such as search option inside the commentary section (although nobody does that). But I think a pagination system would be better in that situation. Anyway, just some food for thoughts.
  - quest88 3y ago
    IMO pagination makes sense with feeds when a feed can be sorted in some ordering. I'd rather jump to page 6 instead of scrolling and scrolling and scrolling to get back.
  - ktosobcy 3y ago
    Actually because of the infinite scroll and basically mental way that social media works I gave it up... No, it's not constantly changing. There was a publication at rhw certain time and it can be shown at that time (ideally you can have inbox with unread entries). Right no it's impossible to follow anything in any sane manner... to that end I use only RSS and from social perspective I added a couple of reddit sub feeds there and that's all...
Starlevel004 3y ago
This is the end result of the tailwindification of the internet.
l5870uoo9y 3y ago
Its TailwindCSS. Classes are CSS, can’t really match those.
mm263 3y ago
What's the use case, in your opinion, for an average user to inspect the footer? Or any element on that website for that purpose?
- persnickety 3y ago
  Average users can't or don't need to be helped. Let's think more about those who have special needs.
  - mm263 3y ago
    Is the assumption here that Tailwind classes are somehow not A11Y compliant? That's false, you can both use Tailwind and make website fully accessible, reader-compatible.
    - persnickety 3y ago
      When you try to alter the style of a calendar, in order to be able to read the text more clearly, if making the style of the date readable turns the title into garbage (because there's no semantic information, only they happen to share the same visual class), then someone is going to have a hard time using your website because of your decisions not taking into account their needs. (This is a slightly tweaked real life example; it was adjusting the style for printing so that the calendar was accessible offline.)
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SamWhited 3y ago

I would have said the same thing about infinite scrolling; that always feels like a dark pattern to me because it makes it hard to find specific results again, hard (or impossible) to get to any links in the page footer, etc. I always just want a single page that I can link back to later :)

hexage1814 3y ago
To me, I think it depends on what is the goal when you are searching something and what is that data in particular. Infinite scroll and pagination offer different user experience proposes, and make different assumptions about the user. To give a blatant example where I don't see a pagination system making that much sense, pagination on a personalized news feed of some social media. That information is changing constantly. It's a never-ending information stream. Even in the case here, if you are searching for a blog or podcast, you could just link that blog article rather than the page search where you found that article. Especially in a situation where you don't have any interaction with that content aside clicking on it. Especially when the search engine doesn't seem to have millions of results, which seems to be the case here, it seems to be a relatively small list of blogs submitted to this site. Infinite scroll on the other hand have some problems especially in situations where you are expect to interact with that content one way or the other (such as a commentary section). In fact, when dealing with really large amounts of data, it essentially buries that data. Think about a commentary section with 60.000 commentaries. Essentially 98% of them are hidden way because the browser will crash before loading them. So if you decide to go down infinite scroll route, I think the very least you could do would be offer another way to search for stuff, such as search option inside the commentary section (although nobody does that). But I think a pagination system would be better in that situation. Anyway, just some food for thoughts.
- quest88 3y ago
  IMO pagination makes sense with feeds when a feed can be sorted in some ordering. I'd rather jump to page 6 instead of scrolling and scrolling and scrolling to get back.
- ktosobcy 3y ago
  Actually because of the infinite scroll and basically mental way that social media works I gave it up... No, it's not constantly changing. There was a publication at rhw certain time and it can be shown at that time (ideally you can have inbox with unread entries). Right no it's impossible to follow anything in any sane manner... to that end I use only RSS and from social perspective I added a couple of reddit sub feeds there and that's all...

Starlevel004 3y ago

This is the end result of the tailwindification of the internet.

l5870uoo9y 3y ago

Its TailwindCSS. Classes are CSS, can’t really match those.

mm263 3y ago

What's the use case, in your opinion, for an average user to inspect the footer? Or any element on that website for that purpose?

persnickety 3y ago
Average users can't or don't need to be helped. Let's think more about those who have special needs.
- mm263 3y ago
  Is the assumption here that Tailwind classes are somehow not A11Y compliant? That's false, you can both use Tailwind and make website fully accessible, reader-compatible.
  - persnickety 3y ago
    When you try to alter the style of a calendar, in order to be able to read the text more clearly, if making the style of the date readable turns the title into garbage (because there's no semantic information, only they happen to share the same visual class), then someone is going to have a hard time using your website because of your decisions not taking into account their needs. (This is a slightly tweaked real life example; it was adjusting the style for printing so that the calendar was accessible offline.)

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