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You’re not wrong. Asking someone to send their public ssh key then login to a shell over ssh works as well as FizzBuzz to identify the newbs and posers.

cranberryturkey 3y ago
i got canned because i refused to install cpanel on our server for a fiverr dev the founder hired.
- johng 3y ago
  That hurts.
  - cranberryturkey 3y ago
    I tried to do the right thing. In the end that company was going to fail anyway
- gregjor 3y ago
  I have had “freelancers” ask for cPanel too. Sucks to get fired for that but you did the right thing.
- andrewflnr 3y ago
  Is cpanel that bad?
  - mingus88 3y ago
    I mean, yeah, if you are a professional it’s a bad look to have to depend on a web GUI It’s like being a valet and not being able to operate a manual transmission
    - cranberryturkey 3y ago
      exactly
    - andrewflnr 3y ago
      Well yes, that's embarrassing for them, but I wouldn't consider it grounds for a hard refusal. Hiring cheap help is potentially decent business practice for low-stakes work. Refusal seems more appropriate if there was real damage from the software that raised it to an issue of professional ethics...
      - cranberryturkey 3y ago
        If they can't use the command line they suck. period.
        andrewflnr 3y ago
        I can't agree. Would you say the same for someone who was a pure designer? I doubt it. Would it suddenly become true if they picked up a little bit of admin-by-GUI on the side? Again, doubt it. But then how much technical skill can you have before the command-line-or-they-suck clause kicks in? It may have been true for the particular guy your previous boss hired, but it's unsupportable as a generalization.
  - gregjor 3y ago
    Giving root permissions to a complex and opaque web GUI with a history of security problems seems bad. While it’s possible to correctly secure cPanel, the skills needed to do that are the same as those needed to manage the server without it.
- rnts08 3y ago
  I would have walked out as well.
NikkiA 3y ago
I've been using shells since 1989, and I still rarely remember ssh-copy-id exists, I guess that makes me a poser :(

cranberryturkey 3y ago

i got canned because i refused to install cpanel on our server for a fiverr dev the founder hired.

johng 3y ago
That hurts.
- cranberryturkey 3y ago
  I tried to do the right thing. In the end that company was going to fail anyway
gregjor 3y ago
I have had “freelancers” ask for cPanel too. Sucks to get fired for that but you did the right thing.
andrewflnr 3y ago
Is cpanel that bad?
- mingus88 3y ago
  I mean, yeah, if you are a professional it’s a bad look to have to depend on a web GUI It’s like being a valet and not being able to operate a manual transmission
  - cranberryturkey 3y ago
    exactly
  - andrewflnr 3y ago
    Well yes, that's embarrassing for them, but I wouldn't consider it grounds for a hard refusal. Hiring cheap help is potentially decent business practice for low-stakes work. Refusal seems more appropriate if there was real damage from the software that raised it to an issue of professional ethics...
    - cranberryturkey 3y ago
      If they can't use the command line they suck. period.
      - andrewflnr 3y ago
        I can't agree. Would you say the same for someone who was a pure designer? I doubt it. Would it suddenly become true if they picked up a little bit of admin-by-GUI on the side? Again, doubt it. But then how much technical skill can you have before the command-line-or-they-suck clause kicks in? It may have been true for the particular guy your previous boss hired, but it's unsupportable as a generalization.
- gregjor 3y ago
  Giving root permissions to a complex and opaque web GUI with a history of security problems seems bad. While it’s possible to correctly secure cPanel, the skills needed to do that are the same as those needed to manage the server without it.
rnts08 3y ago
I would have walked out as well.

NikkiA 3y ago

I've been using shells since 1989, and I still rarely remember ssh-copy-id exists, I guess that makes me a poser :(